Shark_615
join:2006-01-17
Pickering, ON
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This is what happens when 1% of the users are consuming 90% of the bandwidth.
I am glad they are throttling those wasters of bandwidth. Ther e is no need to download everything left right and centre, if people are "just" downloading linux it wouldn't be an issue and Rogers wouldn't be doing this. |
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Roundboy
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join:2000-10-04
Drexel Hill, PA
| said by Shark_615  :This is what happens when 1% of the users are consuming 90% of the bandwidth. I am glad they are throttling those wasters of bandwidth. Ther e is no need to download everything left right and centre, if people are "just" downloading linux it wouldn't be an issue and Rogers wouldn't be doing this. Hello! Welcome to the internet!
Rogers is NOT throttling connections.. its outright blocking the bittorrent applicaion from sharing & connecting.
This affects quite a bit more then 'linux ISO downloads' .. it is in use by many sites to serve patches & demos (including World of Warcraft), which is increasing by the day. Also many people find it a perfect alternative to website bandwidth limitations when hosting large-ish files, as torrent'ing them spreads the bandwidth around.
As a new internet user, I'm sure you'll soon see that Bittorrent traffic != Illegal Traffic.
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csnewbie
join:2001-02-12
Atlanta, GA
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if you pay for unlimited internet access, then you should get it. not throttle your bandwidth and limit your usage. if you can't provide unlimited then dont advertise it.
if people can't use their high speed internet however they want then why bother to pay 3 or 4 times as much for it? would it not be wise to stick with dialup if all u were doing is just checking email and browsing? |
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Shark_615
join:2006-01-17
Pickering, ON
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Are you new to reading?
I said that if the majority of BT downloads were used for legal activities then the amount of traffic wouldn't have bothered Rogers and they would not have installed anti-bt measures.
They are not blocking bt they are severly minimizing it. But of course you wouldknow, you ARE a rogers customer right? |
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Roundboy
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join:2000-10-04
Drexel Hill, PA
1 edit | said by Shark_615 :Are you new to reading? Ah! I see what you did there.
said by Shark_615 :I said that if the majority of BT downloads were used for legal activities then the amount of traffic wouldn't have bothered Rogers and they would not have installed anti-bt measures. Super. But, *my* post implied that one could generate as much perfectly legal traffic as illegal download traffic. So, Rodgers is not a perfect, unique snowflake for throttling. You did by 'unlimited' internet right? Or did you buy 'unlimited internet, except if you actually use it'
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mikef1
Mike
join:2004-10-28
Littlestown, PA
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said by Shark_615 :This is what happens when 1% of the users are consuming 90% of the bandwidth. I am glad they are throttling those wasters of bandwidth. Ther e is no need to download everything left right and centre, if people are "just" downloading linux it wouldn't be an issue and Rogers wouldn't be doing this. I agree.
I do wonder how much throttling they are doing, whether its a fixed cap or not.
At my place of employment we shape all internet traffic with the p2p getting the lowest priority. So they get as much as available, they just don't interfere with other traffic.
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Shark_615
join:2006-01-17
Pickering, ON
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I am glad you got that, my day would have been ruined if that little dig has been missed.
However I am sure a few people would be able to make a lot of traffic legally. However the amount of traffic they would create would be tiny compared to how much traffic illegal sharing is creating.
Don't get me wrong I download and share files I probably shouldn't but I severely limit what I get to what I need. I know several people that download full movies just to watch once. They have dozens of files on the go all of the time.
They key here is ABUSE. Its like going 200MPH in a car just because you can and f*** everyone else. |
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Roundboy
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join:2000-10-04
Drexel Hill, PA
1 edit | said by Shark_615 :However I am sure a few people would be able to make a lot of traffic legally. So.. maybe only like the top 1% of downloaders ? 
said by Shark_615 :This is what happens when 1% of the users are consuming 90% of the bandwidth. |
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Shark_615
join:2006-01-17
Pickering, ON | Are you a lawyer? |
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rtcy
FACTS only please
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join:1999-10-16
Beverly Hills, CA
 ·Verizon west (ex G..
 ·Verizon FIOS
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said by Shark_615 :I am glad you got that, my day would have been ruined if that little dig has been missed. However I am sure a few people would be able to make a lot of traffic legally. However the amount of traffic they would create would be tiny compared to how much traffic illegal sharing is creating. Don't get me wrong I download and share files I probably shouldn't but I severely limit what I get to what I need. I know several people that download full movies just to watch once. They have dozens of files on the go all of the time. They key here is ABUSE. Its like going 200MPH in a car just because you can and f*** everyone else. legal or ilegal is not the issue.
they are selling you a amount of bandwidth, and they have no right to take it back from you. they are a pipe provider, they are not cops, and if they were cops , they can not see what is legal or not in a BT stream, so they are in fact taking away from you the subscriver what you are paying them for in the first place.
as others have said here, the only way to really give them a good jab is to switch service and letting them know in writting as well as voice WHY.
keep competition ALIVE. this is my number 1 worry about Verizon and them wanting to kill that copper plant and are actively taking down those copper wires. their aim is to be the next MA-bell-CABLE giant. they have talked the FCC to letting them have their way because of the huge investment, and i agree they need to secure that, BUt I want to see 20 years from now the re-opening of that fiver to the same competition that copper has now.
I hope people keep themselves informed and ACTIVe in these matters on both sides of the border |
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