AmeritecTech
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Nevermind about Bram Cohen. He's been bought by the establishment. Anyway, the ISPs I've seen mentioned lately are limiting the number of connections a BitTorrent user is able to make, which encryption would be helpless to stop.
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Zaber
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| said by AmeritecTech  : Anyway, the ISPs I've seen mentioned lately are limiting the number of connections a BitTorrent user is able to make, which encryption would be helpless to stop. Which brings up the question: "Why am I paying for a faster tier?" BT is, IMHO, the best way to download free software, it keeps the bandwidth costs down for the developer. Think about it when the next Fedora comes out, how much would it cost RedHat to let everyone download it from their servers, compare that to what it costs them to run a tracker, and let the users download it from each other.
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Combat Chuck
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said by AmeritecTech :Nevermind about Bram Cohen. He's been bought by the establishment. I love how you guys dump on anyone who decides to try to make money off of their creation. It's like you celebrate failure.
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Primis1
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I love how you guys dump on anyone who decides to try to make money off of their creation. It's like you celebrate failure.
It has nothing to do with success or failure, and everything to do with what Cohen himself at one time stated BT was supposed to be.
Or did we all forget Mr. Perfect Bram Cohen's old antiestablishment, pro-warez tirade that came to light in the last year that was on one of his older pages?
Being "bought" doesn't have to involve money, and Cohen is a "sell-out" because he's done a 180 on what he originally claimed BT was all about, and supposed to be and facilitate. |
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Nemokrad
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Re: Number of connections
said by AmeritecTech :Anyway, the ISPs I've seen mentioned lately are limiting the number of connections a BitTorrent user is able to make, which encryption would be helpless to stop. How can they limit BT's connections if the traffic is encrypted therefore not detectable (theoretically) by the ISP.
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Combat Chuck
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said by Primis1 :Or did we all forget Mr. Perfect Bram Cohen's old antiestablishment, pro-warez tirade that came to light in the last year that was on one of his older pages? If you really think that is the best indicator of his intent then BT is a miserable failure as far as he's concerned. He's not that dumb.
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said by Combat Chuck :said by AmeritecTech :Nevermind about Bram Cohen. He's been bought by the establishment. I love how you guys dump on anyone who decides to try to make money off of their creation. It's like you celebrate failure. I love how you always try to hijack the actual subject by posting some retarded pro-corporate spinned crap like this.
FYI: we find it ridiculous that after backing the 'free' side for years, he's suddenly trying to downplay the very obvious abuses ISPs are already doing - and misteriously all this is happening soon after we was hired by the 'other' side... pathetic. |
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AmeritecTech
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Who's dumping him? I just said he's been bought by the establishment, and he has. Bully for him. I'd do the same. |
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G_Poobah
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Shhsssss.. There's actually only ONE neo-con pro-corporate poster on the site. He just uses a bunch of different identities (you know which ones they are). His masters (comcrap,verizon,sbc,etc) will beat him if he doesn't post at least one inane comment every day. He only posts from the scripts the fascist corporate pigs give to him, and he is incapable of understanding logic. Hey, 10 dollar a day, that's pretty good for a troll. Not really, but when you don't even have a grade school degree, your job options are limited to either a fundy creationists, a republican mouthpiece, or a paid astroturfer.
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Combat Chuck
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said by kamm :I love how you always try to hijack the actual subject by posting some retarded pro-corporate spinned crap like this. Hey, if people are gonna start calling people sellouts, I'm gonna point out the stupidity of it. You can't just make an offhand, off-topic remark and then expect everyone to stay on topic. You can't have it both ways Kamm.
I'd like to know how you think my comment was in any way pro-corporate other than the fact that I don't really give a rats ass weather Mr. Cohen works for the **aa's or the double secret underground piracy network of doom. But I'm sure you'll just mysteriously disappear like you do every other time I ask you to explain your ridiculous comments.
Maybe the other one will come in and jump on me for pointing that out.
These more than 2 sided issues really baffle you guys don't they. Your training really hasn't prepared you for anyone who doesn't fit into one or the other group.
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Combat Chuck
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said by G_Poobah :and he is incapable of understanding logic. I find it funny that the conspiracy theorist speaks of logic.
I don't know about anyone else but I've only had 2 identity's on this site jmf270 from way back in 99 00 that I never posted under and this one. But it the voices in your head tell you we're all the same who am I to argue.
BTW care to point out how my post was pro corporate in any way?
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AmeritecTech
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Bram Cohen had militant plans to run a search engine for torrents with unfiltered results. He takes industry money, and suddenly he filters out much of their content. I don't blame him for selling out. Selling out can be quite profitable. But for you to say that he didn't sell out is preposterous.
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Re: Number of connections
Shhsssss.. There's actually only ONE neo-con pro-corporate poster on the site. He just uses a bunch of different identities (you know which ones they are). His masters (comcrap,verizon,sbc,etc) will beat him if he doesn't post at least one inane comment every day. He only posts from the scripts the fascist corporate pigs give to him, and he is incapable of understanding logic. Hey, 10 dollar a day, that's pretty good for a troll. Not really, but when you don't even have a grade school degree, your job options are limited to either a fundy creationists, a republican mouthpiece, or a paid astroturfer.
One of those names being G_Poobah ? |
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sowhatsowhat
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Shhsssss.. There's actually only ONE neo-con pro-corporate poster on the site. He just uses a bunch of different identities (you know which ones they are). His masters (comcrap,verizon,sbc,etc) will beat him if he doesn't post at least one inane comment every day. He only posts from the scripts the fascist corporate pigs give to him, and he is incapable of understanding logic. Hey, 10 dollar a day, that's pretty good for a troll. Not really, but when you don't even have a grade school degree, your job options are limited to either a fundy creationists, a republican mouthpiece, or a paid astroturfer. |
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AmeritecTech
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Combat Chuck
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said by AmeritecTech :Bram Cohen had militant plans to run a search engine for torrents with unfiltered results. He takes industry money, and suddenly he filters out much of their content. I don't blame him for selling out. Selling out can be quite profitable. But for you to say that he didn't sell out is preposterous. All I know is that the "manifesto" was plausibly explained away, and that Mr. Cohen isn't dumb nor would his thought processes be considered normal.
I'm just saying that I wouldn't necessarily claim hes a sellout because of the manifesto. Honestly I don't know if he is or isn't, but you must admit that the term sellout is usually used in a derogatory manner.
The other posts I've made in this branch weren't really meant for you...they were meant for the small band of posters who have decided to follow certain individuals around saying they're the same person, or that they're pro this or that; basically making claims they won't (cause they can't) support. And true to form they mysteriously became silent once they were called on it.
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said by Nemokrad :said by AmeritecTech :Anyway, the ISPs I've seen mentioned lately are limiting the number of connections a BitTorrent user is able to make, which encryption would be helpless to stop. How can they limit BT's connections if the traffic is encrypted therefore not detectable (theoretically) by the ISP. Flow analysis, nothing besides P2P opens up hundreds of connections simultaneously. |
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