guesting
| reply to glidereric
Re: We don`t need another North American Blackout
Remember, utilities in North America lost Billions from the Blackout that involves several states... that`s why we need Broadband over Power Lines to monitor the Health of Power Grids.... If ARRL wants to protect emergency communications, then fight NEXTEL real interference to 911 system... imho |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| said by guesting :
Remember, utilities in North America lost Billions from the Blackout that involves several states... that`s why we need Broadband over Power Lines to monitor the Health of Power Grids.... If ARRL wants to protect emergency communications, then fight NEXTEL real interference to 911 system... imho
Toledo Edison didn't want to spend the money to keep their system in good working order and you think BPL will change that?!?!?
As for the Nextel issue, the HAMs have no allocations in that band so they have no say in how it is run.
Now go pump up the BPL stock so you can break even on your bad investment. |
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RayW
Premium
join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
clubs:
·XMission
| reply to guesting
said by guesting :
Remember, utilities in North America lost Billions from the Blackout that involves several states... that`s why we need Broadband over Power Lines to monitor the Health of Power Grids....
That can be done without HF and above interference. The bandwidth requirement for monitoring and controlling the grid is very small. The initial idea for "BPL for the masses" came from the use of a form of BPL in some areas for just that purpose. Utah power talks about being able to control our air conditioner power usage using that system to help manage the grid balance.
Some people think the push for "BPL for the masses" is a financial ploy to build it out. After all, if you do a business model and it fails, then not only do you have big write-offs and investor cash but you still have the infrastructure for the monitoring system. But if you try to retrofit, that is out of the stockholder's pockets, and in our current short-term-thinking economic society, that is a no-no.
said by guesting :
If ARRL wants to protect emergency communications, then fight NEXTEL real interference to 911 system... imho ARRL does not have anything to do with that (A for Amateur, not Commercial). 1. 911 is a wired system anyway (at least here) and 2. Emergencies in your case are the normal day-to-day issues, the ARRL is focused on the catastrophic issues where 1. probably is inoperative.
Now the dispatchers do use radio, and in many areas those are going to the 800 MHz trunking systems although we have some areas that still get dispatched with HF, VHF and/or Ham radios due to radio shadows and distance.
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guesting
| 911 system and other Emergency spectrum are about to be moved to higher frequency... and they are planning to use better internet system... to not fail again like what happen everytime we have disasters like Hurricanes !!!
We really don`t need hams band anymore aside from having it as a dying hobby...imho !!! |
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fuffer
RF is Good For You
Premium
join:2001-06-21
Mukwonago, WI
clubs:
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·CenturyTel Inc.
 ·RoadRunner Cable
| I'm not sure where you are hearing this, because it's not true !!!
There really isn't a way to come up with a better internet system. Plus, 911 and other emergency spectrum are not really moving that high up.
Before you try to come in anonymously to try and sway opinion, please get your facts straight.
Ham radio isn't a dying hobby - in fact was a big success during Hurricane Katrina.
If you believe the government will have something better in place anytime soon, I have a bridge to sell you.
By the way, it appears that you are connecting from an office (comcast.business). Care to tell us where you work?
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RayW
Premium
join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
clubs:
·XMission
| reply to guesting
said by guesting :
911 system and other Emergency spectrum are about to be moved to higher frequency... and they are planning to use better internet system... to not fail again like what happen everytime we have disasters like Hurricanes !!!
We really don`t need hams band anymore aside from having it as a dying hobby...imho !!!
Hi Corporate Troll, Just in case you need some help:
911 is the land line emergency telephone number, you dial it on the telephone sitting on your desk. The only radio involved is when the dispatcher sends someone out to you.
E911 is for Mobile/Cell Phones, it will be on what ever frequency the cell phone is and is only for the public to call for help. Then it goes to said dispatcher and he/she radios for someone to go help you.
Your area may vary, but that is what it is in the areas I deal with.
Oh, and as far as a dying hobby, tell that to the police, fire, sheriff, and city, county, and state emergency coordinators. They are buying ham equipment, putting up repeaters (maintained by hams) and EOCs (and hiring Hams to run them), and getting public spirited Hams involved with the government process. Those people know what really happened in the South, despite the papers saying nothing worked and pointing fingers and yelling blame, and that is why they are spending your tax dollars on Ham related items.
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word1
@optonline.net | remeber this article?
911 dials IP technology
»news.com.com/911+dials+IP+techno···770.html |
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aonymous2
@optonline.net
| BPL is for Smart Grid- this is the main purpose
I like to share some tidbits of this article:
"TXU and CURRENT Communications to Create Nation’s First Multipurpose Smart Grid
Broadband Over Power Line Network to Be Available to Serve Approximately Two Million Texas Homes and Businesses
DALLAS, TX and GERMANTOWN, MD (December 19, 2005) — TXU Electric Delivery, the nation’s sixth largest electric transmission and distribution company and a subsidiary of TXU Corp. and CURRENT Communications Group, LLC, the nation’s leading provider of broadband over power line (BPL) solutions, today announced an agreement to transform TXU Electric Delivery’s power distribution network into the nation’s first broadband-enabled Smart Grid.
CURRENT will design, build and operate the BPL network covering the majority of the TXU Electric Delivery service area, including approximately two million homes and businesses in the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex and other Texas communities. This modernized grid will dramatically enhance TXU Electric Delivery’s ability to deliver top-decile electric service reliability and provide the potential for additional products and services from retail electric providers that will enable businesses and consumers to manage their electricity usage and costs." |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to word1
Article has one issue. How do you deliver the IP to call 911? OOOPSEY!
Also, those cell sites can't last forever on batteries and some parts of New Orleans still don't have any power.
Try again and this time, try to make a coherent argument without cutting and pasting. |
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RayW
Premium
join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
clubs:
·XMission
| reply to word1
Yes, but IP is still over wires in most places unless you have something like Sprint (a neighbor of mine) that starts off as a radio. WiFi with a mobile PC will be interesting to see what they do with that, GPS may not be too useful in many cases..
Also IP more vulnerable than regular POTS, my DSL goes out with the power, my POTS almost never goes out with the power unless they are on the same pole that gets knocked out.
So once again, the need for Ham radio is still there, in certain circumstances.
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N3EVL
join:2004-12-13
Shrewsbury, MA
| reply to guesting
said by guesting :
We really don`t need hams band anymore aside from having it as a dying hobby...imho !!!
Forgive me if I don't buy into your in-depth analysis of the need or lack thereof for amateur radio or "hams band" as you so quaintly put it: I won't be selling my equipment any time soon. You are correct in one respect however: your opinion is indeed humble. |
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