glidereric
join:2001-12-06
Seattle, WA
1 edit | BPL Being a consulting engineer who has worked in the field of RF communications for almost 40 years I have followed the debate about BPL.. I have advised clients not to invest in the current technologies because they cause interference to HF services.
I frankly don't understand why the power companies don't exploit their monopoly of power poles going by virtually every home with Fiber. Totally non polluting and absolutely immune to RF outside interference!
We have been sadly served by the administrators of the FCC.
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 Slacker44
join:2001-05-10
Gilbert, AZ | Re: BPL You sir are incorrect. It's the FCC who won't open what will solve all these problems.
It can't be the HAMS!! OH NO! | |
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 | RayW
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join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
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| Re: BPL said by Slacker44  :You are right. HAMS are ALWAYS right. All the HAMS have to do is breath and every nerd patrol geek starts to post. It's NEVER the HAMS fault. I am so sick of this crap. I have talked about this before. This in not broadband news. I don't care what people say. said by Slacker44 :You sir are incorrect. It's the FCC who won't open what will solve all these problems. It can't be the HAMS!! OH NO! Ummm....since you are the apparent expert, how is it the Ham's fault?
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TScheisskopf
World News Trust
join:2005-02-13
Belvidere, NJ
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| Re: BPL said by RayW :said by Slacker44 :You are right. HAMS are ALWAYS right. All the HAMS have to do is breath and every nerd patrol geek starts to post. It's NEVER the HAMS fault. I am so sick of this crap. I have talked about this before. This in not broadband news. I don't care what people say. said by Slacker44 :You sir are incorrect. It's the FCC who won't open what will solve all these problems. It can't be the HAMS!! OH NO! Ummm....since you are the apparent expert, how is it the Ham's fault? Do you smell astroturf? I smell astroturf. Do you smell astroturf? 
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join:2001-05-10
Gilbert, AZ
| Re: BPL No reason for HAMS. None. N O N E.
I forgot. Disasters.
Me, being the idiot that I am, can say "Hey but in a ubah disaster there isn't any power!!"
Then mr smart HAM nerd will say "That isn't the problem. HAMS in the disaster can't contact other hams that live near the BPL's that are already in place."
.. because you know BPL is everywhere.
Nerd #1 can't contact nerd #2 and say "help me from the ubah disaster sir". I assume they can call nerd #2-1000 though. Seeing that BPL is in so few places.
So aside from the disaster card which you play everytime the "trolls" come calling, why should we care about your hobby? Technology wins. Buy a cell phone.
"cell phones won't work in an ubah disaster!"
I wasn't talking disasters that time sir. | |
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rf_engineer
join:2003-08-04
USA
| Re: BPL said by Slacker44 :No reason for HAMS. None. N O N E. Let's say for a moment that your argument is valid, that ham radio has no value whatsoever. Does it make sense to ruin a wide swath of radio spectrum that has worldwide communications capabilities, and the ruin of this resource is due to a wired network that doesn't even use the wireless spectrum to provide the service?
The answer is NO. N O | |
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join:2001-05-10
Gilbert, AZ | Re: BPL That is a better argument than the disaster card. Atleast I can respect that. | |
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join:2004-12-13
Shrewsbury, MA | Re: BPL So, now your respect has been earned, exactly what do you propose as a solution to the spectrum pollution presently taking place in the Manassas system? | |
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join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
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| said by Slacker44 :No reason for HAMS. None. N O N E ....deleted a lot of garbage. So in other words, just because you have no need of it, then it can be destroyed for other people's use. Oh, and btw, in the 1.8 to 40 MHz range that we are talking about, Hams are only using about 4 MHz of it. Also, international treaties will come into play, not only on the ham bands, but on the other bands when the sunspot cycles get back to the good propagation levels, also many public/government services (your tax dollar at work) depend on those frequencies (I use some in my work). Our local sheriff uses VHF because the trunking system and cell phones do not work in some areas.
You remind me of a lady I once heard. San Francisco, about 1980, the State of California held a public hearing on the use of pesticides (I was working for that department as an electrical engineer). This well meaning lady, perfectly serious, got up and said (slightly paraphrased after 26 years) "Why do farmers have to use pesticides to grow their food, why can't they go to the grocery store like the rest of us?".
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