bullethead1
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Re: Depends on the situation
broadband is as essential as electricity. We need to power our water heaters and our referigerators and our computers. There's no need to question whether it's a utility. It's essential for the nourishment of the human species. It's as essential as access to the library or the television. |
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psychomf
join:2000-06-01
Silver Spring, MD
1 edit | reply to deepblackmag
i agree on not letting bush control anything of importance, but i think the decision here is about government providing ACCESS to the internet and not exercising any control over its content...
EDIT: sorry this reply was for deepblackmag's comment about govt control of the internet, not your post.... |
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Jafo232
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Boonville, NY
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said by Tarheels Fan  :I don't believe there is any "essential" utility. Civilization has survived for thousands of years without such utilities, therefore in our short time, making them a luxury. Yes, survived barely.. The sharing of information is the only thing that has saved mankind, considering the weapons he has developed..
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SimbaTLK1
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Bethel Park, PA
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Re: Not yet.....
said by Iridium :No, broadband is not a utility. Having internet access isn't a necessity, you can do just fine without the internet at all. You can also live without electricity, natural gas, running water, among other things. A neccessity doesnt = a utility. |
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TheMadSwede
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Holland, MI
·Charter Pipeline
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Re: Depends on the situation
said by King P :A lot of people probably thought that Power and Telephone were luxuries when they were first introduced, however we now know that it isn't true in today's time But it was true in that time -- right where broadband could be considered to be today. That doesn't mean it isn't important. Just not important enough to be a utility.
But the real reason people want to rush to classify broadband as a utility has little to do with putting any sort of metrics on its value in people's lives and more to do with forcing the providers hands. Utility = regulation = moves that may (or may not?) be good for the consumer, but bad for the company.
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Re: Not yet.....
you mean broadband isn't a utility, i just thought everyone had it, kind of like a cell phone... |
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Iridium
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Los Angeles, CA
 ·DSL EXTREME
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No, broadband is not a utility. Having internet access isn't a necessity, you can do just fine without the internet at all. Yes, it is more difficult to do some things, but it is a luxury.
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Tarheels Fan
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1 edit | reply to deepblackmag
Re: Depends on the situation
I don't believe there is any "essential" utility. Civilization has survived for thousands of years without such utilities, therefore in our short time, making them a luxury.
Webster's definition of utility:
Main Entry: public utility
Function: noun
: a business organization (as an electric company) performing a public service and subject to special governmental regulation
So yes, it could easily fit the definition of utility.
It is not on the same scale of as the telephone and sewage system, but in 50 years, I am sure it will be there once 99% of the country is connected. |
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deepblackmag
join:2004-12-27
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1 edit | reply to maartena
BROADBAND MUST NOT BECOME A UTILITY!
The second we start thinking of it as a utility, the government is going to start demanding absolute control of it. the internet is NOT a government system. the backbones are owned, operated, and interconnected through PRIAVATE COMPANIES who solely control it. If we create an internet communications commission (FCC of the future) all of a sudden our information freedom ends and the internet will become utterly useless. Do you really want a bunch of BUSHes dictating the future of the internet? I sure as hell dont. |
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FTCXtreme
join:2005-03-14
New Braintree, MA | reply to moonpuppy
Re: Not yet.....
Thats one of the best idea i've heard. I tried for ISDN, but verizon won't offer it to me, when they most likely can. I'd be happy with 128k, stream audio, play games...:D |
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maartena
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Orange, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to King P
Re: Depends on the situation
If I think hard about it, the absolute necessities for me to use the internet CAN be done with a dial-up modem, which is mainly e-mail and the occasional website.
Of course, pleasure wise I do a LOT more on the internet, and I could not live without broadband internet for a long time.
Personally, I don't think Broadband should be a utility, however I do feel that INTERNET should be a utility, and with that at least a DECENT connection to the internet.
My problem with the current dial-up situation, is that there are MANY areas where you can't even get a better connection then 26400 bps. My mother-in-law (who now has DSL) could not get any faster then 26400 bps on her 56k modem, no matter what she tried.
I think we have the technology available to deploy a nationwide network of 128 kbps connections through phonelines, regardless of the distance to the CO using ISDN type technology, and if areas cannot get the speeds of DSL due to its distance limitation, I believe there should be a federal, nationwide effort to get everyone that has access to a phone line in the United States to at least a 128 kbps connection speed to the internet.
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King P
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| reply to moonpuppy
For me, it is an absolute necessity. Not only do I run my business from it, but it is also our main source of information and news (we choose not to have Television in our home).
I personally think that Broadband is a utility. A lot of people probably thought that Power and Telephone were luxuries when they were first introduced, however we now know that it isn't true in today's time. Broadband SHOULD be considered a utility...in my opinion.
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD | Not yet.....
...but it is getting there. |
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