rf_engineer
join:2003-08-04
USA
| reply to flushls
Re: Interference to ham radio operators? Hmph...
said by flushls  :Plus after that they think you are nuts and move. ...or they call the cops, you end up in prison and the only interference to your TV viewing is some big guy doing life who has taken a liking to you. |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to flushls
said by flushls :I have used a .30-.06 to rectifie the problem with a naughty ham operator. I never had trouble again. Plus after that they think you are nuts and move. In most places, that would be a felony.
What are you, a wannabe soldier of fortune? 
CAMMIE UP!!! |
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flushls
join:2004-11-02
Joyce, WA | reply to moonpuppy
I have used a .30-.06 to rectifie the problem with a naughty ham operator.
I never had trouble again.
Plus after that they think you are nuts and move. |
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RayW
Premium
join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
clubs:
·XMission
| reply to BigMac777
said by BigMac777 :Most Ham Radio operators do not care about there neighbors. ... HAM operators are not your friends period. You sound like someone I know. You live in Utah instead of Arizona? Are you the person who sued a co-worker of mine because he was a (censored) ham who interfered with her TV show and she had proof because she heard him say his name on the TV?
Only problem was 1. He put up the antenna and left the radio at his mother's just to see if that would happen, and 2. He worked low power (less than 10 watts) code, not high power (greater than 500 watts) voice. She still complains about his interference to this day and he has not been active for 5 years due to personal issues.
On a personal note, I have a ham about 3 houses away who runs HF SSB at about 100 watts. I know I heard him so I talked to him and we worked to find the problem. Turns out one of the ground wires for the AC power system ground in my house had corroded and was mixing his RF signal with another RF signal(s) and re-radiating on the TV frequency. Of course it helps that he had a spectrum analyzer, I am an electronics engineer, and neither of us have a blind stereo-typing mindset and blame the other for being a stupid idiot. Most hams keep their signal within the bands that are allotted for them, if not, the FCC does slap them down, and other hams will help them (there is a special group of volunteers who actually help do that).
And no, I do not have a HF transmitter and the only antenna on my house is the one for the TV (no cable). (well, I USE to have a CB radio which is HF, but because of the idiots now using CB radios, I sold it)
If you think you have a ham neighbor that is splattering your TV and is telling you to 'shove it', than call 888-CALL-FCC (225-5322) or write fccinfo@fcc.gov. Be prepared to give dates, times, call signs, what it was, what you were listening to, and what did you do to help work out the issue. Keep a good log, you will need it.
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to BigMac777
said by BigMac777 :Most Ham Radio operators do not care about there neighbors. All they really care about is talking to Alaska, Hawaii, England or where-ever. If possible I feel they are the ones who should be out in the country side away from everyone and everything. The FEDS should enforce the guidelines for HAM operators but they don't. So the general public has to suffer there signal interferring with there TV's. HAM operators are not your friends period. Such enragement. RRRRRAAAAAAAARRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!1111
If you bothered to read my link, you would see they do actually enforce the rules. |
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rf_engineer
join:2003-08-04
USA
| reply to BigMac777
said by BigMac777 :Most Ham Radio operators do not care about there neighbors. All they really care about is talking to Alaska, Hawaii, England or where-ever. If possible I feel they are the ones who should be out in the country side away from everyone and everything. The FEDS should enforce the guidelines for HAM operators but they don't. So the general public has to suffer there signal interferring with there TV's. HAM operators are not your friends period. The FCC does enforce the rules for amateurs, it's called Title 47 Part 97. The reason why your TV or other consumer electronics receives interference is because manufacturers usually don't include the 50 cents worth of parts to prevent RF ingress into components like A/V cables, AC lines, and speaker cables.
Hams are your friends if you talk to them. I'm a ham and have good relations with my neighbors. If I interfere, I fix the problem, regardless if it's their problem under FCC rules. You'll find most hams are the same, although I get the feeling you've never talked to one or met one. |
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clickie
join:2005-05-22
Monroe, MI
| reply to BigMac777
"Most car audio enthusiasts do not care about there (sic) neighbors. All they relaly care about is impressing their friends with booming audio and ear splitting base or what-ever. If possible I feel they are the ones who should be out in the country side away from everyone and everything. The FEDS should enforce the guidelines for car audio enthusiasts but they don't. So the general public has to suffer there (sic) audio intruding upon their common space. Car audio enthusiasts are not your friends period."
Now, let's repeat with "garage bands", "race car teams", "truckers using jake-brakes" and any other people who create offensive noise and interference. Perhaps you're just talking about a few inconsiderate people; after all, I think you'd agree that not all car audio enthusiasts, garage bands, race car teams or truckers are inconsiderate idiots. Right? |
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BigMac777
join:2001-07-21
Green Valley, AZ
·Qwest.net
| reply to moonpuppy
Most Ham Radio operators do not care about there neighbors. All they really care about is talking to Alaska, Hawaii, England or where-ever. If possible I feel they are the ones who should be out in the country side away from everyone and everything. The FEDS should enforce the guidelines for HAM operators but they don't. So the general public has to suffer there signal interferring with there TV's. HAM operators are not your friends period. |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to BuriedCaesar
First off, there are rules to this.
Have you ever tried to ask him about it? Most are very helpful with interference issues (unlike the CB crowd.)
If he tells you go screw yourself, then make a complaint to the FCC noting his name (if you have it), address, call sign (if you know it), and times and types of interference. They will ask him to rectify the situation or he will lose his license.
HOWEVER, if you do not work with him AT ALL, then your chances of getting it resolved are very slim.
And if you don't think the FCC takes action against those who interfere with the airwaves, guess again:
»www.arrl.org/news/enforcement_lo···tml?nc=1
Second listing is interesting.
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BuriedCaesar
It's Not Polite To Stare.
join:2004-03-27
Richardson, TX
 ·AT&T U-Verse
·AT&T Yahoo
| How about ways to keep ham radio operators - okay, specifically, the one guy across the alley from me with a REALLY BIG ANTENNA - from interfering with my TV reception?
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That was preposterous! Utter Nonsense! Totally unsupportable drivel! You can't be serious!....Um, what did you say? |
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