Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
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join:2001-11-29
Erie, PA
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Re: I'll bet the $100 laptop doesn't have Intel CP
said by kamm  :Of course, because we simply refuse to match with Sweden or other countries per-capita charity. Link? I'd like to see if that's government mandated charity or freely given charity.
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JesusHChrist
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Fucking moderators. Enjoy the left side of the asile 
Dave, if for some crazy reason this appears, it has nothing to do with you. Just some liberal tightass who can't stand to hear an opposing view. |
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theeinstein
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join:2003-07-31
Fernandina Beach, FL
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STOP HAVING KIDS!!!!
That doesn't take anything but sense!
Who are we (Americans) the third world police? I agree if it doesn't come from our tax dollars who cares. In all the years you see any country jumping up to help us? All they do is piss and moan about what we shouldn't do then we do it and they want a piece of the cake!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I say SCREW THEM! |
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY | reply to Combat Chuck
That's the problem: it's worst - it's both together.
»www.globalissues.org/TradeRelate···SAid.asp |
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GDF_Slash
join:2003-11-07
Atlanta, GA | reply to TKJunkMail
We should send the Intel Chairman to Cambodia or some other third world country for 10 years. I'm sure that will make him rethink his statement he made. |
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Fatal Vector
join:2005-11-26
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Not to mention that, if the area has no electricity, where the hell are they going to get net access? That can be controlled by the government. Install a satellite station...that needs electricity, maintenance and, can be controlled by the government?
And, the thing looks...wellll creepy. All puke green and all. Looks like a childs toy. Jeez what a waste of money. But then, they are just trying to get away from the food for oil scandal. It all SOUNDS good and all, but implimenting it is where the failure will come. |
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John Galt
Forward, March
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join:2004-09-30
Happy Camp
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| said by Fatal Vector :Not to mention that, if the area has no electricity, where the hell are they going to get net access? That can be controlled by the government. Install a satellite station...that needs electricity, maintenance and, can be controlled by the government? It is all being done at this very instant.
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
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said by Fatal Vector :Not to mention that, if the area has no electricity, where the hell are they going to get net access? That can be controlled by the government. Install a satellite station...that needs electricity, maintenance and, can be controlled by the government? And, the thing looks...wellll creepy. All puke green and all. Looks like a childs toy. Jeez what a waste of money. But then, they are just trying to get away from the food for oil scandal. It all SOUNDS good and all, but implimenting it is where the failure will come. You guys are really pathtetic, seriously. What's up, are you scared of another 400M+ kid willb e smarter than you maybe?  |
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Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
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Erie, PA
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oops...sorry professor, perhaps you should read the sources before you cite them. It took me less than a minute to find:
»www.globalissues.org/TradeRelate···ibutions
pay particular attention to
quote:
While Adelman admits that “there are no complete figures for international private giving” she still says that Americans are “clearly the most generous on earth in public — but especially in private — giving”. Hence these numbers and claims may be taken with caution, but even then, these are high numbers.
emphasis mine.
The only chart I can find that supports what you said is one based on estimating private contributions and then "penalizing" them for various subjective things. And if you are using subjective qualifiers in your study you can basically make the numbers come out however you want them to.
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Eat Me
join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ | reply to cdigioia
You've obviously never lived in a 3rd world country.
I'll forgive you. Most Americans figure anywhere outside of the USA, Europe and parts of Asia are uncivilized. |
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novaflare
The Dragon Was Here
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join:2002-01-24
Barberton, OH
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said by dave :This would be the same Intel that has convinced most people that they need (Intel) CPUs in the 2-to-3 GHz range for adequate web access, right? Lol dave and so true. Look at the specs on compaq computers 3 ghz cpu 256 megs ram and no vid card listed. No vid listed because it uses on board vid totaling as high as 32 megs some times. Essentialy you got hugely fast and powerful cpus (arguably) but can never hope to make use of it all. Dell gateway and other big names are no better. Many are useing sub 60 gig hds still. I can legaly fill a 60 gig hd up in a few days. Computer market for off the shelf computers these days is over priced under powered (do to mis matched specs) door stops.....
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dave
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join:2000-05-04
not in ohio
·Verizon Online DSL
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said by jebba2005 :how will it work in 110 degree heat? No problem there, only the US has 110 degree heat.
(The rest of the world calls it 43, but the US is kinda backwards on measuring things). |
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MsGeek
We Jam Econo On This Ship, Sailor
join:2001-06-06
Panorama City, CA
·DSL EXTREME
| reply to LOsErLuKiN
said by LOsErLuKiN :Hand-cranked? I'm scared. Nothing to be afraid of. Hell, I want one of these. I want a power supply mod that will give me this capability with my existing lappies.
Imagine if you are running low on battery power and you are in a public park...with WiFi...and there's no place to plug in? Get the crank out. Apply elbow grease for 10 minutes, and you're back surfing the web.
As they say in Japan...sugoi, neh?
Negroponte is talking about selling these puppies in the First World for $200 or thereabouts to make the project self-supporting. It might not be the latest and greatest ThinkPad or aluminum Powerbook but it wouldn't be a half bad PDA replacement.
And yes! It runs Linux! w00t.
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cdigioia
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korea, repub
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| reply to Eat Me
Well using a subjective word like uncivilized, being snide, and making sweeping statements about Americans I don't think will particularly educate anyone.
I think it depends on which developing nation one is talking about. The nations mentioned as the 1st to receive this are quite well setup already, which is probably why they are the first, as they are the easiest in which to implement the idea.
But the nations that need assistance the most, (think much of Africa) often have very high HIV infection rates and very low levels of capital investment, including such basic things as paved roadways. As such, the nations that need assistance the most, are going to be the ones that can make the least use of such a laptop.
I would imagine it would be much more beneficial for many nations, African especially, to have for instance, US farm subsidies done away first, so that the farmers can better compete and better provide for a basic economy.
We're not talking about there being a problem shipping laptops to Mexico or Argentina. I think the point is that there won't be the infrastructure to support these laptops in the nations which need help the most. |
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jap
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join:2003-08-10
038xx
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said by Asmodeus :most 3rd worlders don't even use condoms much less know what a condom is.. Ignorant statement that.
A safer statement would be "most first worlders don't know the first fucking thing about the lives of most third-worlders".
And, in this case, the f-word plays a nice dual role.  |
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reub2000
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join:2001-12-28
Evanston, IL
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said by novaflare :said by dave :This would be the same Intel that has convinced most people that they need (Intel) CPUs in the 2-to-3 GHz range for adequate web access, right? Lol dave and so true. Look at the specs on compaq computers 3 ghz cpu 256 megs ram and no vid card listed. No vid listed because it uses on board vid totaling as high as 32 megs some times. Essentialy you got hugely fast and powerful cpus (arguably) but can never hope to make use of it all. Dell gateway and other big names are no better. Many are useing sub 60 gig hds still. I can legaly fill a 60 gig hd up in a few days. Computer market for off the shelf computers these days is over priced under powered (do to mis matched specs) door stops..... It's not just gamers who need power. A high end CPU is not hindered in non-graphic intensive applications by an intergrated video card. Stuff like compiling applicatons and transcoding video are perfect examples. |
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Speedy8
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join:2002-08-22
Alliance, OH
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| said by reub2000 :said by novaflare :said by dave :This would be the same Intel that has convinced most people that they need (Intel) CPUs in the 2-to-3 GHz range for adequate web access, right? Lol dave and so true. Look at the specs on compaq computers 3 ghz cpu 256 megs ram and no vid card listed. No vid listed because it uses on board vid totaling as high as 32 megs some times. Essentialy you got hugely fast and powerful cpus (arguably) but can never hope to make use of it all. Dell gateway and other big names are no better. Many are useing sub 60 gig hds still. I can legaly fill a 60 gig hd up in a few days. Computer market for off the shelf computers these days is over priced under powered (do to mis matched specs) door stops..... It's not just gamers who need power. A high end CPU is not hindered in non-graphic intensive applications by an intergrated video card. Stuff like compiling applicatons and transcoding video are perfect examples. I think the main problem is the low amount of ram. I mean seriously, an average user with an older 1.8ghz P4 with a gig of ram will probably have a lot better experience than one with a 3ghz p4 and only 256MB of ram. |
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The Next Step
@verizon.ne
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But they don't have Internet connectivity. Oh, wait, that'll be the next U.N. project: provide access to the Internet to all citizens of the third world. The U.N. does a piss-poor job of fixing third world problems partly because it's dominated by the "leaders" of those countries who are largely responsible for the problems in the first place.
Until we get past the jealousy and finger-pointing about whose blame third-world poverty is and get people to start accepting responsibility for their own problems, it'll never change. In the meantime, let's keep handing out free notebook computers to people who don't have the energy to turn the crank because they don't have enough to eat. That may not really improve their situation, but it'll make some people in the western countries feel less guilty about being better off. |
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DataRiker
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join:2002-05-19
Metairie, LA
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haha, good post Combat Chunk. Sad to see people hate America so much as to ignore the facts. The largest private donations to Asia and Africa go largely unnoticed, yet year after year Americans still give. Regardless how you feel about the American government, its wrong to distort the facts about private American charitable donations, many of which go undocumented. |
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LinuxJunkie
join:2005-01-19
Cyberspace | reply to jap
And they know everything about us? That's what you're implying and that's also ignorant. |
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