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Cyberguru

join:2005-06-09
Phoenix, AZ
Great Idea

I think this is a great Idea! As long as we are not compromising something in return I'm completely on board. Viruses have become an all to often occurrence.


Kompressor
Premium
join:2002-02-12
Huntington Beach, CA
After they combat the viruses, what will they combat next, free speech?


Jason Levine
Premium
join:2001-07-13
USA
How do you make the leap from combating viruses to restricting speech?


Kompressor
Premium
join:2002-02-12
Huntington Beach, CA
Immunization can be used for good and/or bad. If immunization is integrated into something like the internet, they will be able immunize, block or isolate things other than viruses. Who knows what the limits are.

Samwoo

join:2002-02-15
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA
Uhm blocking data is already a very easy thing to do.

This just allows us to block executable code with certain signatures.

deepblackmag

join:2004-12-27
00000


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Whats to stop them from blocking ascii code with certain words?

And, where are you talking about blocking, because any sort of data inspection doesnt happen on the backbone. Core routers in exchanges hardly filter anything, and even then its not by content. To re-assamble every message in transit to inspect it to see if there is a certain block of bytes in it is rediculous.


envoid

join:2002-12-21
Duluth, GA


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It would be perfect for the NSA, FBI, CIA, and DoHS. Why have them build stuff that can look at everything and get blasted for it while everyone supports the "virus innoculizer" and its "side jobs".

But how would this setup keep the retarded from not loading virus/hoax/ad/spy/trojan-ware in the first place via web, mail, whatever? And just cuz it's on the Internet in many places won't stop the spread if there's a non-innoculized route. I'm sure there would be, especially with cable co's and their infrastructure.

Nice idea but don't think it'll work.

Bait_hammer

join:2002-12-16
Victoria, BC
reply to Cyberguru
Great now the internet can gets its own version of AIDS.


keith2468
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-03
Winnipeg, MB

reply to Kompressor
Nothing caters to government surveillance and restricted speech like the current insecurity of the internet.

Anything that looks like a worm, virus or trojan people automatically assume is from an independent hacker.

We never suspect that it might be a "friendly", hostile government, or political opponent.

And the current insecurity of the internet prevents individuals and local authorities gathering evidence.
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(Virus&Hijacking FAQ + Submit suspected malware + Backups FAQ + Security FAQ TOC)


keith2468
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-03
Winnipeg, MB


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reply to Cyberguru
You are correct, this is a very good and very long over due good idea.

The only real solution is (1) a world-wide network of detectors that collect intrusions and exploits, that use a network independent of the internet to simultaneously funnel them back to (2) redundant central points for analysis, (3) (an independent network) to send those analysis out to firewalls and anti-malware scanners ahead of the instrusions spread through the internet, and (4) firewalls and scanners capable of accepting warnings and automatically acting on them (in a user-customized way) to protect the LANs and computers behind them.

(5) The same mechnism could send SMS text messages alerting admins of the impending problem.

(6) This same independent network could be used for supplemental human communications on resolving problems if the internet failed.

The current security situation on the internet prevents free speech by making it to easy to disrupt free speech, and making it too easy for others to impersonate us.

The current situation means that we cannot really trust those we talk to on the internet to be who they claim to be, nor to be who they were last week. (That is, we would never know if someones that we know only by a nickname is the same someone that had that nickname last week.)
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(Virus&Hijacking FAQ + Submit suspected malware + Backups FAQ + Security FAQ TOC)

Cyberguru

join:2005-06-09
Phoenix, AZ
reply to Bait_hammer
It already has it, this would be the cure dumb a@@
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