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AR
Premium,ExMod 2001-04
join:2000-09-21
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 Biological and chemical weapons too?

Bad news from Time.com that the terrorists might be planning to disperse chemical or biological agents on densely populated targets.
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What? Me worry?


DelaWhere_Steve

join:2001-03-21
They were planning to spread the stuff from crop-dusting planes.
This is quite serious in wanting to kill as many people as possible.


Flagger
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join:2001-08-10
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reply to AR
Which explains why the NSA had all agricultural crop dusting banned during last week.


AR
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reply to DelaWhere_Steve
I saw a feature on this particular subject on 60 minutes and it was revealed that we are totally not prepared to deal with the aftermath of such an event. They did a drill to simulate such an attack in a NY subway station and they declared the drill a failure. And the scary thing is that NY's emergency response teams are one of the best in the country.
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mballard
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Los Angeles, CA
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reply to Flagger
All planes were banned during most of the last week, regardless of what they were doing.


Flagger
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said by mballard:
All planes were banned during most of the last week, regardless of what they were doing.
They had actually allowed them then rebanned them.

As an airplane owner, and private pilot I have been following this issue quite closely.

We have a plane sitting in Houston that just today was able to be used again in flight training.
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"...that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain; that this nation shall have a new birth of freedom; and that this government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."


DelaWhere_Steve

join:2001-03-21
You quote Lincoln from Gettysberg addresss, I think?


Flagger
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join:2001-08-10
Weimville
reply to AR
Yes that is from it


Coot
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reply to DelaWhere_Steve
said by DelaWhere_Steve:
They were planning to spread the stuff from crop-dusting planes.
This is quite serious in wanting to kill as many people as possible.
Does this surprise anyone? These people are frigging madmen. You cannot negotiate with them, but rather they must be separated from the innocents they insinuate themselves with...and then erased.
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Some people leave their mark on the world, others leave a stain.


DelaWhere_Steve

join:2001-03-21

I support that plan.

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"The end cannot justify the means, for the simple and obvious reason that the means employed determine the nature of the ends produced."
Aldous Huxley 1894-1963


AR
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Toronto, ON
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reply to mballard
Crop dusters were the first to be allowed back up, saw one near Sac. myself.

But then it is only one way of doing it, they could do it from an offshore method like from on a boat or something and let the wind guide the chemicals city-ward.
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cjsmith
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join:2000-11-03
Villa Rica, GA

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Bioarmageddon


Bioarmageddon
said by Debora MacKenzie:
Sooner or later there is going to be a biological attack on a major city. Are we prepared to deal with it? Not a chance.
Further down the page:

On the lookout

SPOTTING a biological attack in time to get people into their protective gear is no small feat. Ideally, you'd like to see the attack coming.

Part of the problem is that because the air is already full of microbes, detecting a puff of bacteria isn't enough to sound the alarm. Instead, scientists are focusing on what carries the germs. One of the best ways to disperse biological weapons is with a droplet cloud, like the mist from a crop-spraying aeroplane. Researchers at Los Alamos National Laboratory are testing a device called the XM-94. Mounted in a Blackhawk helicopter, the XM-94 uses lidar-a laser radar-to sense clouds of droplets in the air.

"It's neat, it's sensitive and it works to a 30-kilometre range," says Robert Karl, the XM-94's designer. The problem? The XM-94 might find it difficult to tell the difference between a biological strike and a patch of fog. Which could spell trouble if the bioterrorists decide to make their strike on a day when the weather is not set fair.
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