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phantom6294

join:2002-02-27
Abingdon, MD
·Comcast

WRT54GS v4 Neutered as well...

The GSv4 was neutered as well; also getting a memory reduction. From 8MB Flash / 32MB RAM to 4MB Flash / 16MB RAM. Basically, this brings it to pre-Gv5 memory levels... luckily though, this is still enough memory to run the 3rd-party firmwars.

From my WRT54GSv4, running dd-wrt.v23-beta2:
~ # cat /proc/meminfo
total: used: free: shared: buffers: cached:
Mem: 14581760 10215424 4366336 0 1409024 4370432
Swap: 0 0 0
MemTotal: 14240 kB
MemFree: 4264 kB
MemShared: 0 kB
Buffers: 1376 kB
Cached: 4268 kB
SwapCached: 0 kB
Active: 3344 kB
Inactive: 2320 kB
HighTotal: 0 kB
HighFree: 0 kB
LowTotal: 14240 kB
LowFree: 4264 kB
SwapTotal: 0 kB
SwapFree: 0 kB
~ #

This is from my main router, a GSv2 running Talisman v1.1
main:~#cat /proc/meminfo
total: used: free: shared: buffers: cached:
Mem: 30945280 12582912 18362368 0 1351680 5185536
Swap: 0 0 0
MemTotal: 30220 kB
MemFree: 17932 kB
MemShared: 0 kB
Buffers: 1320 kB
Cached: 5064 kB
SwapCached: 0 kB
Active: 4452 kB
Inactive: 4196 kB
HighTotal: 0 kB
HighFree: 0 kB
LowTotal: 30220 kB
LowFree: 17932 kB
SwapTotal: 0 kB
SwapFree: 0 kB
main:~#

As I understand it... the "Speedboost" capability is a firmware implementation... NOT a hardware one. Which means buying a GSv4 means you spend and extra $30 for some code in firmware most people won't even use.... huh.

In short, the Gv4 has the same amount of memory as the GSv4, and yet is $30 cheaper. If you can find a Gv4, buy it long before you buy a GSv4. If you want the previous 8MB/32MB models... look for a GS prior to v4.


Cheese
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join:2003-10-26
Naples, FL
clubs:

said by phantom6294 See Profile :

The GSv4 was neutered as well; also getting a memory reduction. From 8MB Flash / 32MB RAM to 4MB Flash / 16MB RAM. Basically, this brings it to pre-Gv5 memory levels... luckily though, this is still enough memory to run the 3rd-party firmwars.

From my WRT54GSv4, running dd-wrt.v23-beta2:
~ # cat /proc/meminfo
total: used: free: shared: buffers: cached:
Mem: 14581760 10215424 4366336 0 1409024 4370432
Swap: 0 0 0
MemTotal: 14240 kB
MemFree: 4264 kB
MemShared: 0 kB
Buffers: 1376 kB
Cached: 4268 kB
SwapCached: 0 kB
Active: 3344 kB
Inactive: 2320 kB
HighTotal: 0 kB
HighFree: 0 kB
LowTotal: 14240 kB
LowFree: 4264 kB
SwapTotal: 0 kB
SwapFree: 0 kB
~ #

This is from my main router, a GSv2 running Talisman v1.1
main:~#cat /proc/meminfo
total: used: free: shared: buffers: cached:
Mem: 30945280 12582912 18362368 0 1351680 5185536
Swap: 0 0 0
MemTotal: 30220 kB
MemFree: 17932 kB
MemShared: 0 kB
Buffers: 1320 kB
Cached: 5064 kB
SwapCached: 0 kB
Active: 4452 kB
Inactive: 4196 kB
HighTotal: 0 kB
HighFree: 0 kB
LowTotal: 30220 kB
LowFree: 17932 kB
SwapTotal: 0 kB
SwapFree: 0 kB
main:~#

As I understand it... the "Speedboost" capability is a firmware implementation... NOT a hardware one. Which means buying a GSv4 means you spend and extra $30 for some code in firmware most people won't even use.... huh.

In short, the Gv4 has the same amount of memory as the GSv4, and yet is $30 cheaper. If you can find a Gv4, buy it long before you buy a GSv4. If you want the previous 8MB/32MB models... look for a GS prior to v4.
How to get this info? I have a WRT54G V2 and just would like to see what it says too.

phantom6294

join:2002-02-27
Abingdon, MD
·Comcast

Well, since the Linksys firmware doesn't provide telnet services into the router (AFAIK), you'll need a 3rd-party firmware.

If you have a 3rd-party firmware, log in via telnet/SSH and simply run the command: cat /proc/meminfo

Or... pull it apart, get the part number for the memory chip and look it up. But... that physcially and noticably voids your warranty.

jeffs471

join:2005-09-16
Camarillo, CA


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reply to phantom6294
I read about this last week, I went out and bought a GSv3 even though I didn't really need a router. I figure I will in the future. V3 has the updated chip handling the lan traffic, supposedly it can handle 50mbps connections through the wan while the pre v3 would top out at 30mbps. This probably isn't an issue for most people but I figured in the future it may be for me with fios. And it has the full 32mb memory chips. I found it for 50 bucks AR at bestbuy.


envoid

join:2002-12-21
Duluth, GA

reply to phantom6294
said by phantom6294 See Profile :

As I understand it... the "Speedboost" capability is a firmware implementation... NOT a hardware one. Which means buying a GSv4 means you spend and extra $30 for some code in firmware most people won't even use.... huh.
It is hardware. The firmware tho does need to be there to take advantage of it.


BA
The Old Man's Gonna Roll the Hard Six
Premium,MVM
join:2001-05-24
Vancouver, BC
clubs:
reply to phantom6294
SpeedBoost is hardware, but the Gv4 has the exact same hardware as GSv4.

phantom6294

join:2002-02-27
Abingdon, MD
·Comcast

reply to envoid
I don't know the details of how Speedboost works... but I do know this. The G and GS models have shared the same chipset (for the most part)... thus, the extra $30 is for just a different firmware; and probably just some extra code. That is some damn expensive code. Bascially, it's a selling point only... the GS bascially only had more memory than the G models.

One could surmise that since the GSv4 has half the memory of previous models... then the extra memory was unnecssary for Speedboost to work. Furthermore, if the GSv4 is capable of Speedboost with half the memory... than a G model with the same chipset and the 4/16 Memory configuration (the same as the GSv4) is quite capable of Speedboost as well. Which begs the question... why did previous models have the 8/32 config?

See a matrix of hardware specs of G & GS by models here Note, some of the memory figures are wrong in this matrix.


sahirs

join:2002-02-14
Singapore
reply to Cheese
How to get this info? I have a WRT54G V2 and just would like to see what it says too.
Use wrtbwlog. Go do a google search.
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its sahir, in singapore.
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