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tcope
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reply to phantom6294
Re: Most companies have caps; official or unoffici

said by phantom6294 See Profile :

Since my first (non-school) broadband account (Road Runner, Summer 2001), I have never seen a regular (read: DSL/Cable, NOT verizon's wireless access) broadband service advertised as unlimited.
Then you have not seem my quote from Primus's own website or event visited their webpage.

»www.primustel.ca/en/residential/···ures.htm
"High Speed Internet with Unlimited Access"

phantom6294

join:2002-02-27
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reply to pnh102
Since my first (non-school) broadband account (Road Runner, Summer 2001), I have never seen a regular (read: DSL/Cable, NOT verizon's wireless access) broadband service advertised as unlimited. That isn't to say that it doesn't exist... I am by no means omnipresent. I've had Road Runner in Birmingham, AL, Charter in Birmingham, AL, Road Runner in Fort Hood, TX and Optimum Online in Lakewood, NJ; not one ever described their service as unlimited. The only thing I have seen published was a speed; never a volume.

I do agree... a company should ONLY use the word "unlimited" if that TRUELY means unlimited; read: no TOA/etc limiting what can be used.


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I am inclined to disagree about 1.8TB being not a lot of data.

I transfer DVD ISO's via LAN, download gigabytes of data and have just reached 1TB of data transfer since May 12, 2005.

A terabyte still is a lot of data.
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pnh102
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reply to G_Poobah
Re: Most companies have caps; official or unofficial

said by G_Poobah See Profile :

I respond that it's not the users responsibility to ensure companies make a profit. If they advertise unlimited connection at 6mb, then by definition, you 'could' download 1.879692 Tb per month (including overhead). And that's what they advertised. In todays world of 500GB hard drives, and all the movies/tv shows/music/software you want for free, 1.8Tb isn't really that much data.
I have to agree with you here. If an ISP advertises unlimited usage, then it should prepare for and expect unlimited usage. If an ISP doesn't like it then it should not use the word "unlimited" in any of its advertising. If they want to cap, that's fine (I'll take my business elsewhere). If they want to throttle certain traffic, that's fine too (just let me know what's being throttled).

I'm always the last one to suggest that "there ought to be a law" against this sort of BS but I'll suggest it. Companies should just not be allowed to make up new meanings for words such as "unlimited" or advertise one rate for service but then charge that along with a bunch of other BS fees that weren't mentioned before you signed the contract. This is just not honest.
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KeepOnRockin
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said by G_Poobah See Profile :

If they don't go to jail, for STEALING 3 MILLION times, why should I go to jail for stealing 1,000 times?
I think that falls under the category of them having a lot more money than you.

Right or wrong, money talks in the judicial system.


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reply to TKJunkMail
"Contrary to opinions of those who think they should get 6000 mbps usage 24x7, that isn't the way it works - not at the prices the companies charge."

I respond that it's not the users responsibility to ensure companies make a profit. If they advertise unlimited connection at 6mb, then by definition, you 'could' download 1.879692 Tb per month (including overhead). And that's what they advertised. In todays world of 500GB hard drives, and all the movies/tv shows/music/software you want for free, 1.8Tb isn't really that much data.

Oh! Wait, are you calling me a thief? Why, I can't be, cause the SONY Executives are my moral compass. They are big business, so they must be morally correct. They don't seem to have any problem STEALING source code (The DRM theft of code from Lame) so why should I have a problem stealing other stuff? (technically, I am infringing). If they don't go to jail, for STEALING 3 MILLION times, why should I go to jail for stealing 1,000 times?
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