Thaler
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Re: Sounds like...
said by vpoko  :Tough to care too much when you're making $15/hr and management is only concerned with how many calls-per-hour you take, no? They pay Indians that much? Holy crap! I thought we outsourced in order to save money?
(edit) Wait...this is Canadian money. Um, what's the conversion rates over there again? Unless it's 3x+, it's still better paying than minimum wage here. |
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vpoko
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Jamaica Plain, MA
| said by Thaler :said by vpoko :Tough to care too much when you're making $15/hr and management is only concerned with how many calls-per-hour you take, no? They pay Indians that much? Holy crap! I thought we outsourced in order to save money? (edit) Wait...this is Canadian money. Um, what's the conversion rates over there again? Unless it's 3x+, it's still better paying than minimum wage here. I wasn't even talking about outsourced techs in India, the above is doubly true for them. |
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rradina
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Chesterfield, MO
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said by Thaler :said by vpoko :Tough to care too much when you're making $15/hr and management is only concerned with how many calls-per-hour you take, no? They pay Indians that much? Holy crap! I thought we outsourced in order to save money? (edit) Wait...this is Canadian money. Um, what's the conversion rates over there again? Unless it's 3x+, it's still better paying than minimum wage here.
Local outsource firm bills: $15/hour
National outsource firm bills: $12/hour
India-based, US-owned outsource firm bills: $9/hour
India-based, Indian-owned outsource firm bills $6/hour
Indian worker makes: $3/hour
We have several Indian contractors who work for us. They are not yet residents but they are working on their green card. There are a lot of firms who specialize in the green card process. We pay $105/hour for one poor fellow. He sees less than half that. He doesn't live in our metro area and has to pay his own travel and living expenses. His billable rate goes through three contracting firms before what's left gets to him. |
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sdafasdf
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.85 cents american buys 1 canadian dollar |
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nixen
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said by rradina :We pay $105/hour for one poor fellow. He sees less than half that. Umm... What percentage do you think a US citizen gets as an employee of a consulting company? The only way a consultant ever sees more than a small fraction is if he's a direct contractor (i.e., 1099'ed directly to the end-employer).
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rradina
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| Unless we're talking a fresh college grad working for a large national firm that's billing $150/hour and paying peanuts or a position where work is not constant (10 or 20 hours/week max), that shouldn't be the case. As a software developer (consistent 40+ hour weeks) I contracted from 1993 to 2001 and depending on the firm, I was directly paid anywhere from 50% to 70% of my rate. This is with 401K matching and benefits.
Consulting companies certainly get a decent cut but unless it's a bad deal (like my Indian associate or the college grad) or a low utilization position, the worker generally gets a fair share of the billable rate. |
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nixen
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| said by rradina :Consulting companies certainly get a decent cut but unless it's a bad deal (like my Indian associate or the college grad) or a low utilization position, the worker generally gets a fair share of the billable rate. Or, unless it's a salaried position for which the individual engagement rates vary and utilization varies week to week.
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DSL Oberst
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Earthlink's American-based outsource receive payment of approximately $9/hr [San Antonio and Omaha outsource]. Considering that Earthlink is billing the outsource company at a rate of $12/hr, I'd say that [combined with what I've seen in my own experience] most contract employees see about 60-80%. I'd tend more towards the low side; Earthlink tends to have higher pay than comparable companies. |
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