Violet1966
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|  Am i the only one??
Last night's fund raiser with the stars...i don't remember the name of it. Am i the only one that thought it was in bad taste? I know it was to raise funds but it also seemed so commercial and self serving and repulsed me. Is it just me? =(
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ethics$
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Brooklyn, NY | No, it wasn't just you.
Nice gesture but I clicked it off.
I've donated all I could the 1st week the tragic events took place.
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JohnnyG101
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clubs:  | same here, nice gesture but it just wasnt kosher. |
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PatientGuy
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I thought it was great. Even if I didn't, I personally wouldn't disparage other peoples efforts to help the victims of the attack on America, especially when they are accomplishing far more than I could ever do. |
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Violet1966
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join:2001-02-01
| I thought the meaning of the whole thing was great but did not feel it was a time for performances. I think it would have done just as good if the performers donated their time and said individual appeals for raising funds to their fans. I just did not see any justifying the performances =(
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acuraman
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Campbell, CA | I watched for a bit but your right it looked to commercial. It was for a good cause but it could've been better. |
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Flagger
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I for one really enjoyed it. I noticed the A-listers checking their egos at the door. There was a message posted earlier in this Forum about why haven't celebrities been seen doing anything. If they can use their names and faces for something positive I am all for it.
Who cares if Celine is a Canadian and sang God Bless America, she has a beautiful voice.
Though Ali is suffering from the ravages of Pakinson's, his message was crystal clear. Those who committed this horrible act in the name of Allah are abhorrent, and if "he was able to do something about it he would". No doubt in my mind about it. The message to stop the vigilante violence against Muslims came across quite clearly.
It was short, simple, well coordinated and to me did not come over as grandstanding. To alot of people, whether right or wrong, they are seen as their heroes. To use that status in a positive way should be applauded, IMHO.
The only weird vision was seeing Eddie Vedder (sp?) with short hair.
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Kalford
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I didn't watch it, so I can't make any comments as to how it played out, but the many in the entertainment community have expressed how insignificant their work actually is in light of the ongoing events.
The cynic in me suggests that this was their way of gaining back some of that self importance they have lost.
But to be fair, these are people too, and I think that for the most part their hearts were in the right place. If it did raise millions for the recovery effort, victims and their families then I suppose that the outcome is good.
As for taste, In all fairness to most of them, it was supposed to be as low key an event as possible with the spotlight supposed to be on the victims and the rescuers,
not the stars themselves (Though I hear that Celine Dion and Mariah Carrey didn't understand that concept too well)
But as I said, I didn't watch. . . I guess the cynic in me won out afterall.
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PatientGuy
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Those folks are performers. That's what they do for a living. They create value by plying their trade. They attract large audiences. How long would people sit and watch one performer after another ask for donations? Are others, like computer professionals, who volunteer their professional services in bad taste or self-serving? Is there really that much difference. |
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Rick
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I thought it was in very good taste.
It was low key, no audiences, and certainly didn't strike
me as performances on their part but moreso expressing
their emotions and trying to help out in their own way.
I thought each song they presented was appropriate
and with meaning.
And lastly, I'm sure they raised a good amt of money to
help the victims and the United Way.
Nothing wrong with that IMO.
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Juke Box
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I thought Bruce Springsteen should have sung "Born in the USA".
But his opener was fitting for the cause...
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Maccawolf
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|  Timing's all wrong
I wasn't gonna post anymore... agreeing with what the mods were saying about time to get back to normal on dslr... HOWEVER, I have to say that it's nice to see others share my opinion that the time for the all star tribute was IMHO wrong....
First, let me say that I lost no one personally in the tragedy... just friends twice to three times removed, but even "I" feel it's too early to"Get on with my life".
I watched about the first 20 mins or so last night and thought "this is stupid". not what they were doing, but the timing is all wrong.
I agree that we should START to get back to doing normal things, but it's almost like they are trying to say one-two weeks is long enough to grieve....
Even though I didn't loose anyone, I just don't feel like it's time to move on. That is not to say that I'm sitting in my house cowering,I'm not, but it just really p***ed me off when Bono(?) was singing I'm sick of grieving or whatever he sang.
From my past experiences with death of friends and loved ones, I know that it takes a long time, and the only way "I" know how is to remember, and talk with people and things like that. If we just go on with our lives, isn't that saying that this "incident" didn't mean anything that we can just tun around and forget it ever happened?????? |
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ShinyTop8
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Re: Am i the only one??
I can certainly understand somebody not being ready for the tribute, but I am surprised at comments that it was in bad taste. There was no audience, no applause, and money was collected for a worthy cause.
Can't press everybody's button every time.
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sneezy6145
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I thought the benefit was a nice and what they did was very nice. I was very touched by Neil Young singing John Lennon's Imagine.
I thought the comments by the actors were very nice and touching but I thought the music could have been a little more patriotic. But no matter what they did it was all for a great and worthy cause. |
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Violet1966
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it would have been nice if they all sang patriotic songs i agree. but they didn't and that was what turned me off. it was all to push their own songs. i didn't think it was appropriate nor was the timing right. i think the cause was a good one but i think they could have done it in a way that didn't seem so self serving. and as far as egos being checked at the door...there was so much pancake on that airing that i find that very funny. if these actors and musicians wanted to do some good while relating to everyday people they could have acted more like everyday people. i don't know...it just disgusted me =(
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Liberty or death, what we so proudly hail..once you provoke her, rattling of her tail...never begins it, never, but once engaged...
never surrenders, showing the fangs of rage...don't tread on me
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Grumpy
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Good or bad, tasteful or tacky, they certainly did more for mankind last night than I did.
I enjoyed it. Wish I had taped it.
[text was edited by author 2001-09-22 22:12:28] |
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MeeToo7
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Re: Am i the only one??
(I'll repost what I wrote in another thread, since you asked)
It was a great show. Made me cry a couple times, just to watch Willy Nelson sing again, and Celine Dion coming out of retirement for this.
The celebrities did their part to help with what they had and knew best. They gave days or their time (at least a day or 2 to rehearse) which in normal times would have bring them thousands if not millions according to their status.
It made me feel good to hear their music, to see them all there together, from the pops to the oldies to the all American country artists to the younger crowd. Who above 35 didn't have misty eyes listening to Paul Simon singing Bridge over Troubled Water? I can't talk for the new generation, I don't know what makes their eyes misty, but I'm sure there was a song or two there that did it.
It was a great catharsis for me. I would gladly have paid $75-$100 to see all these people in a Lollapalooza type concert...but since it wasn't a live concert, well I was stingier with my generosity. But then, I gave already, and I'm not done giving if need be.
I'm proud of our American artists, just as much as I'm proud of all Americans, as a whole. We did good. We're doing good. We beat the barbarians in this world hands down. |
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Homunculus
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there was no recognition for the performers... no names were flashing while they were singing, or talking... everyone has their own way of grieving... celebrities too... why not give them the time and chance to do what they can to help too? It wasnt in bad taste at all... and you could tell in their eyes, that it wasnt an easy thing for them to do... it was all about emotion, and nothing to do with recognition... if you didnt know who they were, they continued on, unrecognized... there were a few that i didnt know. Everyone has their own way of expressing themself, and I am glad they put all that time and energy into it!
Lots of the songs werent patriotic, no... they didnt have to be... they were about emotions.. human emotions... very appropriate... at least for me.. what a roller coaster its been... I find that when I'm down in the dumps, i turn to music to help me sort through my feelings... this telethon didnt solve anything, but it made me realize im not the only one feeling hurt/proud all at the same time.
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Flagger
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I was glad that all the songs weren't patriotic. I felt each of them fit the mood of the performers.
I only wish there had been more stories from Washington than New York, but the New York part of this has directly affected more people. |
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limeygit
Everybody Wang-Chung Tonight
join:2001-02-17
Nearest Bar
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As someone who earns at least a part of their living from being a music critic I would normally have had much to say on this, critical claws would have been out and sharpened.
This time I turned off the part of my brain that deals with that. Now is not the time for this.
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