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G_Poobah
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So, Sony screwed up, installed a rootkit on millions of computers, now they stole copyrighted software, and distributed 4+ million copies of it FOR PROFIT.
Lets see what the penalties would be for an american citizen, vs. what will happen to sony..
Botnet Zombie Maker with 400,000 machines (rootkits) installed. Looking at 50 years of prison. How is his rootkit any different than sony's rootkit? It's not. Both were installed by tricking the user to install via EULA clickthroughs.
Copyright infringement : The MPAA sentence for copying ONE MOVIE is 150,000.00 + 10 years. The sentence is PER VIOLATION. By my calculations, at 2,300,000 CD's sold with this copyright violating software, SONY should be liable for 345 Billion dollars then. And at 10 years per violation, times 2,300,000 CD's, divided by 162,000 employees, that's about 140 years of prison for every single employee.
Does all that sound ludicrous? It should, but that's the LAW as written, that's the law **AA's purchased from the US government. Why should they get a 'free ride', or even a 'slap on the wrist' penalty when they demanded outrageous penalties? They shouldn't.
The corporate drones wonder why so many people ignore the law. It's because the law is ludicrous. And the law becomes worse than ludicrous in sony's case, it becomes hypocritical, unless sony faces HUGE penalties for what they did. Why should anyone who releases a rootkit be punished, if sony can get away with 2.3 million rootkits? Why should any p2p user be charged with distribution, when sony SOLD for PROFIT 2.3 million copies of stolen code? The violations are clear. There is no excuse for them. The question is, will Sony be punished with a penalty to match the level of the infringement. (300+ Billion dollar penalty).
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nixen
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Alexandria, VA | The music was sold for profit. The copy protection software was given away for free...
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kalphearion
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said by G_Poobah  :So, Sony screwed up, installed a rootkit on millions of computers, now they stole copyrighted software, and distributed 4+ million copies of it FOR PROFIT. Lets see what the penalties would be for an american citizen, vs. what will happen to sony.. Botnet Zombie Maker with 400,000 machines (rootkits) installed. Looking at 50 years of prison. How is his rootkit any different than sony's rootkit? It's not. Both were installed by tricking the user to install via EULA clickthroughs. Copyright infringement : The MPAA sentence for copying ONE MOVIE is 150,000.00 + 10 years. The sentence is PER VIOLATION. By my calculations, at 2,300,000 CD's sold with this copyright violating software, SONY should be liable for 345 Billion dollars then. And at 10 years per violation, times 2,300,000 CD's, divided by 162,000 employees, that's about 140 years of prison for every single employee. Does all that sound ludicrous? It should, but that's the LAW as written, that's the law **AA's purchased from the US government. Why should they get a 'free ride', or even a 'slap on the wrist' penalty when they demanded outrageous penalties? They shouldn't. The corporate drones wonder why so many people ignore the law. It's because the law is ludicrous. And the law becomes worse than ludicrous in sony's case, it becomes hypocritical, unless sony faces HUGE penalties for what they did. Why should anyone who releases a rootkit be punished, if sony can get away with 2.3 million rootkits? Why should any p2p user be charged with distribution, when sony SOLD for PROFIT 2.3 million copies of stolen code? The violations are clear. There is no excuse for them. The question is, will Sony be punished with a penalty to match the level of the infringement. (300+ Billion dollar penalty). I like how you calculated all that, But Sony will be backed by the Government, RIAA, and they will only get slap on the wrist, afterall, we live in a democracy "steal from the poor, give to the rich, you have freedom but we limit what it is" | |
guitarzan
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G_Poobah
Sony won't even get a slap on the wrist.Would not only be right , but also legally lawfull should what you post happen to occur.
However you do know that this is America and the only people who pay for everything is the working class taxpayers.
The bought and paid for politicians who granted the **AA's what they wanted, would never turn against their corporate masters and/or owners.And allow them to be punished by the very laws they asked for.
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said by nixen :The music was sold for profit. The copy protection software was given away for free... If that argument doesn't fly for file sharers I don't see how Sony can use it. This is exactly what the RIAA and MPAA are all about, going after people giving away their property for free, they got rid of the for profit portion of the law.
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Pirate515
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said by kalphearion :...Sony will be backed by the Government... Certain parts of the government have already spoken against SONY:
»Uncle Sam Crits Sony/BMG
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nixen
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said by Kilroy :said by nixen :The music was sold for profit. The copy protection software was given away for free... If that argument doesn't fly for file sharers I don't see how Sony can use it. This is exactly what the RIAA and MPAA are all about, going after people giving away their property for free, they got rid of the for profit portion of the law. Just saying what they'll argue, if it even comes down to it.
-tom
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aurgathor
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said by G_Poobah :So, Sony screwed up, installed a rootkit on millions of computers, They only installed an app that can be exploited, but they had no intention of taking over other people's computers. Incompetence and malevolence are two different things, and while it's easy to see and prove that they were incompetent, the latter is not obvious, and I kinda doubt that it could be proved.
now they stole copyrighted software, and distributed 4+ million copies of it FOR PROFIT.
As far as I know said software was developed by a company other than Sony. Often, end users will not get the source code for the app, in which case it would've been unreasonable to epect Sony to know that it was a lifted code. But even if they got the source code, it may not be obvious that it was a pawned work if the comments with the GPL notices have been deleted.
In any case, just what was borrowed from LAME? I don't see much things in common in an mp3 encoder and some lousy copy protection software, aside from both being "lame", though for very different reasons.  | |
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