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darrylr

join:2003-02-10
Nepean, ON
reply to st7860
Re: Rogers DISCONTINUING Usenet service as of Dec

I actually meant 3Web customers who are using the Rogers cable network. What kind of newsgroup service do they offer? I kind of thought they would just be using the Rogers/Giganews setup as well.

-Darryl


shudwein
OG

join:2001-10-12
Canada

said by darrylr See Profile :

I actually meant 3Web customers who are using the Rogers cable network. What kind of newsgroup service do they offer? I kind of thought they would just be using the Rogers/Giganews setup as well.

-Darryl
I believe from what I've read that it's the same as Rogers (Giganews). Most likely once Rogers discontinues the outsourcing, it will be gone for 3Web too.

salan

join:2004-10-04
Canada
reply to sbrook
Re: Rogers DISCONTINUING Usenet service as of Dec 15

first the caps, now BT, and now usenet. Rogers, ur officialy the shittiest ISP this world has had the unfortune to live with. the sympatico call center shall soon be recieving a phone call... just hope Bell has upgraded by area or im doomed.


garts99

join:2003-02-27
North York
reply to sbrook
Re: Rogers DISCONTINUING Usenet service as of Dec

Damn sneaky rogers.

Makes u wanna punch ted in the face.

dl0711

join:2004-06-27
London, ON
reply to sbrook
Re: Rogers DISCONTINUING Usenet service as of Dec 15

With this news it makes it look like rogers thinks that everyone who uses the UseNet Servers is a Child Porn Downloader... Shame on rogers thinking that.

its almost like Slander.


will98

@cable.rogers
Re: Rogers DISCONTINUING Usenet service as of Dec

It looks like they took the Child Porn reference out of the FAQ. They must have read the comments on this forum.

Roop

join:2003-11-15
Ottawa, ON
reply to sbrook
Re: Rogers DISCONTINUING Usenet service as of Dec 15

the only thing i can say about this is motherf*****s. that's the only thing that comes to mind. i can't believe rogers would do this.


pulp39
Premium
join:2003-01-28
Ottawa, ON


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Re: Rogers DISCONTINUING Usenet service as of Dec

said by Roop See Profile :

the only thing i can say about this is motherf*****s. that's the only thing that comes to mind. i can't believe rogers would do this.
You've GOT to be kidding me? Ted has been regularily degrading the service for years and you can't believe this new development? The *only* thing a *tad* bit surprising is how long he let Giganews provide us access. I predicted the end of free newsgroup service coming in a matter of months, as soon as Ted introduced this crap, bottom feeding, Giga service. Writing was on the wall man... and no one believed me, again! LOL
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www.theleafssuck.com


will98

@cable.rogers

reply to Roop
"the only thing i can say about this is motherf*****s. that's the only thing that comes to mind. i can't believe rogers would do this."

Why not? It's simple. They have over a 1 million customers. Usenet is used by such a tiny percentage. So business sense would say it's not worth maintaining. With the large number of 3rd party providers out there getting usenet access again is not a big deal.

I know for some mommy and daddy won't want to pay another $15.00 a month since they are already paying for the internet but for the rest, you have many options.

DALarose

join:2003-03-07
CANADA
reply to drunkgoat
Rogers of course in their TOS says they don't have to tell their users.

DALarose

join:2003-03-07
CANADA

reply to sbrook
Re: Rogers DISCONTINUING Usenet service as of Dec 15

said by sbrook See Profile :

Thanks for the notification Rogers! This was discovered in the FAQ by one of our readers - not notified to us!

As of Dec 15, if you want Usenet, you have to pay for it yourself, or use Google groups for casual lookups.

See here ...

»shoprogersfaq.custhelp.com/cgi-b···_by=dflt
»shoprogersfaq.custhelp.com/cgi-b···_by=dflt

or »tinyurl.com/7m8t7

"Internet technology is constantly changing. Usenet was one of the earliest forms of user discussion on the Internet, but today has largely been replaced by blogs, instant messaging, personal web pages and other tools. As a result, fewer and fewer people are accessing Usenet. Therefore, Rogers has decided to stop providing Usenet service to Rogers Yahoo customers effective December 15, 2005."

I guess SMTP and POP3 are also old forms so Rogers will drop these next...

By April Rogers Cable Systems will drop CBC because it's an old method to view TV.

Note Rogers only supports MSIE, as Netscape, Mozilla, Opera, et al is too confusing for their tech droids

Fortunately I still have my National Capital FreeNet account for all the text based usenet.

Roop

join:2003-11-15
Ottawa, ON
reply to pulp39
Re: Rogers DISCONTINUING Usenet service as of Dec

lemme rephrase that:

i can't believe rogers, the bestest isp in the world would do this.

(gags)

salan

join:2004-10-04
Canada


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reply to sbrook
Re: Rogers DISCONTINUING Usenet service as of Dec 15

Here is a come back and a letter to Rogers from the "rogers.general" newsgroup.

!THESE ARE NOT MY MESSAGES/POSTS!

1. By "Glenn"; Re: Dec 15 - Discontinuation of Rogers Usenet Service!

Post:

quote:
So what will RY chop next? My guess - those "earlier forms" of mail protocols: POP3 and SMTP. And why not, after all, doesn't EVERYONE use RY WebMail now? Sorry, not everyone, just "fewer and fewer people". Anyone else notice how those "earlier forms" of service don't produce advertising revenue like most of the new "high-valued" FREE services that RY has introduced? Oh well, I guess we have to move with the times, or to another ISP.

Sorry about being so down on RY, but, well, announcements like this make me grumpy... or perhaps it's just my age... anyone else remember the internet before WWW?
Glenn

2. By Jgibbs; My signoff letter

quote:
Pretentious of me to post it here but I know that when I send it to RY, they will just junk it. I'd like to know somebody read it!!!

An open letter to the braintrust at Rogers:

I've been a Rogers high-speed customer for years now but no more. I've been marginalized for the last time. Your promises of high speed internet service has been steadily hacked apart to the point that all you are really offering is high speed web surfing. The internet is much more than that. As you've pointed out in your FAQ:

"Internet technology is constantly changing. Usenet was one of the earliest forms of user discussion on the Internet, but today has largely been replaced by blogs, instant messaging, personal web pages and other tools. As a result, fewer and fewer people are accessing Usenet."

The internet is changing. I couldn't agree more. The wealth of multimedia information that is available now versus even 5 years ago is astounding. Multimedia takes bandwidth. But instead of properly adapting to the bandwidth demanded by this century, you've taken away, piece by piece, what made your service valuable. So now, you've decided that "fewer and fewer" people are using usenet. Guess what? I use it. In fact, prove to me the number of new messages posted to usenet has decreased. It hasn't. But here's my Rogers story:

Joined Rogers High Speed which was much faster but much more expensive than alternatives Got shunted to High Speed Express (or something) when High Speed Extreme became available Learned that there would be a 60Gb limit on downloads per month. Not an issue for me but a restriction you decided on with no grandfathering clause Learned that my usenet experience would be "enhanced" by giving me abysmal download speeds but 1 year retention rate. Great because, like most internet users, I only access the internet once a year Learned that you were throttling P2P traffic with packet shaping. You may deny it but I know that my p2p starts fast and then loses connection and it only started this month. I am not alone in this either: »P2P and UDP Gaming Throttling Info . This is in spite of the selling feature hyped here: »www.shoprogers.com/Store/Cable/I···tion.asp . I bring your attention to the part that says "Enjoy a fast service that great for email, sharing photos and files and extensive web surfing. Difficult to share anything when you throttle upload speeds. Now you are discontinuing Usenet service because I can use blogs? What does that mean?

In any case, the message is clear. Rogers wants the same money they've always charged but they only want it from people content to do a little web surfing. People who want to enjoy advances in internet technology such as p2p and bit-torrent are not wanted. They cost you bandwidth which, in spite of your claims to the contrary, you are unwilling to provide.

I was considering switching my home phone to your VOIP service but I really don't trust your company anymore. You don't live up to your claims, you change the rules and sadly, believe your own spin. How can I depend on you for reliable service? If you employ the same tactics there as you have for internet I'll be faced with a more difficult choice than losing an e-mail address.

I'll also be calling tonight to cancel my cellphone. I'll still be buying my big screen tv this Christmas but obviously satellite is the way to go.

Just a quick total for your marketing folks - Lost revenue from High speed, cellphone and digital cable = $1200 annually plus VOIP. That's negative churn. And that's only one customer.

Plus a tip to help you get by in this century: Convergence offers huge revenue potential. But tick off the customers financing your infrastructure investment and they will shun all of your convergence offerings. You could wind up back in just the cable business. How ironic that you are moving into the old Nortel building. Will history repeat itself?


chiptuned

join:2003-09-25

reply to sbrook
I can't believe this. What a slap in the face to their customers. As if the cap AND THEN throttling wasn't enough. They can all go F themselves.

For almost 5 years now the service was reliable (I've hardly ever had outages) and I've always had good speeds, but the rate of shit that I've had to deal with recently has increased past my threshold.

Looks like I'll be getting dsl for christmas.

KyeU

join:2003-12-31
Canada

reply to sbrook
-Bandwidth Caps
-Torrent Throttling
-Newgroups 35 kB/s speed cap
-No personal web page space (well, Geocities, but it's crap)

Next they'll do 'rolling blackouts' on our Internet Connections.

Not looking good, for us and for Rogers.

If this continues, I'll have to switch to Sympatico. And I do mean this.

I don't care for newsgroups. I've lost interest in newsgroups ever since Rogers switched to Giganews, with the 35 kB/s speed caps.


garts99

join:2003-02-27
North York
Re: Rogers DISCONTINUING Usenet service as of Dec

Can anyone recommend a good 3rd party usenet provider?

darrylr

join:2003-02-10
Nepean, ON
It sounds like newshosting.com is the favorite of many people here. Unlimited downloads for $14.95 US per month. You can max out your Rogers connection (using multiple connections) and they have 24+ days of retention in binary groups.

-Darryl


anotherAnon

@cable.rogers

reply to sbrook
Just wanted to chime in and let you all know I'll be jumping ship as well come January most likely. This is the last straw. Any Rogers reps reading this, please be warned that I'll do all I can to prevent anyone I know from signing up with you guys.

Unbelievable the way you sneak around the bush, lie to the public, all the while dwindle their service down month after month to nothing. The hell are you doing with all the money we give you monthly?


thisFORUMrules

@cable.rogers

reply to KyeU
pretty soon everyone on the rogers network will lose access to this web site due to "web site shaping". someone is gonna get sued here! hahahah -- defenders of rogers, you all sound like employees trying to work damage control. does rogers pay you extra for putting your 2 cents in?


surflord
Bulby

join:2001-11-28
North York, ON
reply to sbrook
Re: Rogers DISCONTINUING Usenet service as of Dec 15

anyone know of a good usenet provider?...other than Giganews. In other words, a reasonable price for reasonable retention? Thanks for your help.
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Sympatico or Rogers? Well, they're both defintely better than dial-up
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