sbrook
Premium,Mod
join:2001-12-14
H0H 0H0
 ·Rogers Hi-Speed
Host:
Rogers
Bell Canada
| Rogers DISCONTINUING Usenet service as of Dec 15
Thanks for the notification Rogers! This was discovered in the FAQ by one of our readers - not notified to us!
As of Dec 15, if you want Usenet, you have to pay for it yourself, or use Google groups for casual lookups.
See here ...
»shoprogersfaq.custhelp.com/cgi-b···_by=dflt |
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darrylr
join:2003-02-10
Nepean, ON
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November 9th, @06:44PM
| Re: Rogers DISCONTINUING Usenet service as of Dec
This really sucks IMO. I guess I'll have to pay extra again for a 3rd party provider like Giganews. I guess the advantage is that I don't have to wait all day for stuff any more.
It's too bad too because I really like the current setup with all the retention and completion of Giganews at no extra cost.
-Darryl |
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incoginto42
@cable.rogers | That's it back to Sympatico :P |
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HiVolt
Premium
join:2000-12-28
Toronto, ON
clubs:
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·Bell Sympatico
| reply to sbrook
Re: Rogers DISCONTINUING Usenet service as of Dec 15
Well that's certainly a surprise, a total removal of usenet. I thought at first its just a decision not to support binary groups like many other ISP's have done, but still have basic usenet service.
I used the Rogers giganews usenet on occasion at work, but it being capped to a low speed I never really cared much for it.
I'm not gonna cry about it.
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will98
@cable.rogers | reply to sbrook
Re: Rogers DISCONTINUING Usenet service as of Dec
No big deal. I've been using Newshosting for almost 2 years now. |
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sbrook
Premium,Mod
join:2001-12-14
H0H 0H0
·Rogers Hi-Speed
Host:
Rogers
Bell Canada
| Not a HUGE loss, but I agree that eliminating binaries would have solved the problem that they *claim* they are trying to resolve. The answer is probably that they are on another round of cost cutting and this probably the easiest thing that will cause the least screaming. |
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puzz1ed
join:2005-02-20
Markham, ON
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November 9th, @08:34PM
| If so few people are using Usenet, it couldn't possibly cost that much for them to have it. Even the entire Yahoo package of mail, web, & premium services only cost $2-3 per subscriber per month.
Pretty soon Rogers will discontinue everything and only provide a connection albeit that wouldn't be so bad it not for the throttling.
BTW, I hate when companies try to throw up silly smoke screens like that "canceling it because of child porn" crap. Please. You're cancelling it to shave some costs and because you'll probably get away with it. |
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corster
Premium
join:2002-02-23
Ottawa, ON
clubs: 
·Rogers Hi-Speed
| reply to sbrook
Re: Rogers DISCONTINUING Usenet service as of Dec 15
any free servers to use?
i don't need binary groups, but my parents use the cruise and travel groups and they like having them, they dont like Google Groups
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corster
Premium
join:2002-02-23
Ottawa, ON
clubs:
·Rogers Hi-Speed
| reply to sbrook
"
As a member of Canadian Coalition Against Internet Child Exploitation (CCAISE) Rogers is committed to reducing the effectiveness of Usenet as a distribution vehicle for child exploitation images.
For both of these reasons, Rogers has decided to stop providing Usenet service to Rogers Yahoo customers effective December 15, 2005."
hmm... genius.... then how about blocking those newsgroups?
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sbrook
Premium,Mod
join:2001-12-14
H0H 0H0
·Rogers Hi-Speed
Host:
Rogers
Bell Canada
| reply to puzz1ed
Re: Rogers DISCONTINUING Usenet service as of Dec
said by puzz1ed  :If so few people are using Usenet, it couldn't possibly cost that much for them to have it. Even the entire Yahoo package of mail, web, & premium services only cost $2-3 per subscriber per month. 2-3 dollars per subscriber per month = 2 to 3 million dollars per month! 24-36 million per year.
I suspect it's actually a lot less than that from Giganews ... but still a significant chunk of change. |
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puzz1ed
join:2005-02-20
Markham, ON
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November 9th, @09:31PM
| said by sbrook :2-3 dollars per subscriber per month = 2 to 3 million dollars per month! 24-36 million per year. Considering I pay approaching $50/month....
Actually, I really think that Rogers will eventually discontinue everything unless they're getting some kind of ad revenue from it. They see that people can get mail/webspace for free and nobody cares about the "content" on Rogers/Yahoo web page. I figure they'll keep that if they start putting up Google AdSense stuff on it. People are more sophisticated than 10 years ago and don't need the ISP bundled stuff as much so Rogers is there to seize the opportunity to squeeze you a bit more. |
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sstackho
join:2004-07-22
Toronto, ON
| reply to sbrook
Wow.
Rogers' newsgroups access was actually the biggest impediment for me to NOT leave Rogers. I decided to leave anyway because of the threatened caps, but always kept my eye on Rogers.
My elderly father bought the Extreme modem solely FOR newsgroups, which were then throttled one month later (and no refund given).
On Sympatico, I purchase pay-by-download from Astraweb, and I'm happy with it, although I don't freely download gigabytes like I used to on Rogers. |
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MacGyver
In Flanders Fields
Premium,ExMod 2003-05
join:2001-10-14
Orleans, ON | reply to sbrook
For anyone thinking of jumping to Sympatico, Sympatico's newsgroups have had all the binary groups removed for several years now. So while you can still get text messages, forget any attachments. |
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shudwein
OG
join:2001-10-12
Canada
edit:
November 9th, @10:02PM
| reply to sbrook
first BT, now Giganews? Goodbye Rogers!
BS! If Rogers wanted to prevent distribution of child pornography, they should stop providing internet access all together. |
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deadromantics
@cable.rogers | reply to sbrook
hahaha it just gets better and better. any day now the switch will happen on my end.. no more rogers, no more bs. |
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y2dan
join:2002-03-12
Canada | reply to sbrook
What other newsgroups services would you all recommend? |
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jono181
join:2004-06-05
Toronto, ON | So all the new unsuspecting people that sign up for Rogers will now be pleasantly surprised to find out there is no usenet newsgroups. Wow, nice one Rogers. |
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jono181
join:2004-06-05
Toronto, ON
| reply to shudwein
said by shudwein :first BT, now Giganews? Goodbye Rogers! BS! If Rogers wanted to prevent distribution of child pornography, they should stop providing internet access all together. Yeah, I like how that's the only reason they give for it. |
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FireHazard
join:2004-09-30
Mississauga, ON
| reply to deadromantics
I agree with HiVolt. We all knew it was coming, it was just a matter of time.
I'm one of those guys who bought the Sb5100 for $100, soley for newsgroups. When rogers cut the speeds for retention. I jumped ship and payed my $14.95 to Newshosting.
There's probably not going to be much network speed improvements by scrapping usenet, cuz all i do is download.
No big loss for you guys who like the free thing.
That child porn thing was a bit odd. What the hell is the Canadian Coalition Against Internet Child Exploitation? The fact that they have an acronym for it creeps the hell out of me. People are into that kind of shit?
Sheessssh.... |
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sm00nie
join:2004-06-04
Richmond Hill, ON
| reply to sbrook
Re: Rogers DISCONTINUING Usenet service as of Dec 15
bahh I'm disappointed.. I'm in the programming environment and a great deal of support I receive and give are through this service. A lot of old school professors and programmers I've come to know and work with are exclusively on newsgroups.
I'll definitely be letting Rogers know of my disappointment (not that it will change anything)... and search for another affordable newsgroup provider. |
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