lostboy8
join:2005-02-20
2 edits | [News] SBC/AT&T merger
Ok I'm kinda confused here. I use to have AT&T cable internet in the chicago area before comcast bought them out. So how is SBC buying AT&T out again with the DSL service because they plan on changing their name to AT&T DSL. Did AT&T have both cable & dsl internet services going on? |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
| Once Comcast bought AT&T BROADBAND SERVICES, it became Comcast - end of story there.
AT&T being bought by SBC is a separate deal.. just consider them SBC for all purposes right now with a bad makeover.
Yes, AT&T had both cable and DSL at one time. Now they just have their DSL services that are resold through the LECs. You can't think of it as AT&T any more other than by name - it's still, as I said, SBC with a bad name, AT&T (aka American Thieves & Thugs)
I hope this answers the question because your question didn't make a whole lot of sense as you asked it. |
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lostboy8
join:2005-02-20 | Yeah it answered my questions. Thanks. |
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bcunningh
join:2005-04-01
Seattle, WA | reply to fiberguy
I find it interesting that AT&T sold the broadband division because they wanted to get out of the Video and HSI business and now with their marriage to SBC they will be getting right back into it. |
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EnasYorl
Thieves World
join:2001-12-02
West
 ·Verizon Online DSL
1 edit | said by bcunningh  :I find it interesting that AT&T sold the broadband division because they wanted to get out of the Video and HSI business and now with their marriage to SBC they will be getting right back into it. AT&T Worldnet is a huge Nationwide fiber backbone that Comcast, and many many others peer with. Also on this backbone rides AT&T Call vantage and millions of longdistance PSTN calls.
AT&T has been selling off parts for a long time now. Cable, Wireless, Business services, etc.
If you really look at it SBC was AT&T along time ago. They just went full circle. |
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funinatl
join:2005-01-11
Grayson, GA
1 edit | said by EnasYorl :AT&T Worldnet is a huge Nationwide fiber backbone that Comcast, and many many others peer with. Also on this backbone rides AT&T Call vantage and millions of longdistance PSTN calls. Most of your statement is correct with one correction. Worldnet is only the name of AT&T's dialup internet service. But it isn't the name of their backbone network that carries Comcast and others, AT&T Callvantage, PSTN and much more.
Fixed uneven quote tags. ~sorto' |
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EnasYorl
Thieves World
join:2001-12-02
West
·Verizon Online DSL
1 edit | said by funinatl :said by EnasYorl : Most of your statement is correct with one correction. Worldnet is only the name of AT&T's dialup internet service. But it isn't the name of their backbone network that carries Comcast and others, AT&T Callvantage, PSTN and much more. Fixed uneven quote tags. ~sorto' The Worldnet Engineers where the same ones that managed ATTBI.com at the time.
I know it's not the name of their backbone, but it's a large piece of their Internet group less the Core group. |
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funinatl
join:2005-01-11
Grayson, GA
1 edit | said by EnasYorl :The Worldnet Engineers where the same ones that managed ATTBI.com at the time. I know it's not the name of their backbone, but it's a large piece of their Internet group less the Core group. It isn't a big issue but there's a difference between the AT&T Worldnet service and the AT&T core (backbone) network that carries all of AT&T's service (including Worldnet) and other customers services.
Fixed uneven quote tags. ~sorto' |
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EnasYorl
Thieves World
join:2001-12-02
West
·Verizon Online DSL
3 edits | said by funinatl :said by EnasYorl :The Worldnet Engineers where the same ones that managed ATTBI.com at the time. I know it's not the name of their backbone, but it's a large piece of their Internet group less the Core group. It isn't a big issue but there's a difference between the AT&T Worldnet service and the AT&T core (backbone) network that carries all of AT&T's service (including Worldnet) and other customers services. Fixed uneven quote tags. ~sorto' Exactly. Core group is mostly Layer 1/2 (SONET and DWDM) transport and Switching (PSTN), But the Engineers running Worldnet do the lion's share of Layer 3 management for all networks. |
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funinatl
join:2005-01-11
Grayson, GA
1 edit | said by EnasYorl :Exactly. Core group is mostly Layer 1/2 (SONET and DWDM) transport and Switching (PSTN), But the Engineers running Worldnet do the lion's share of Layer 3 management for all networks. Your first sentence is accurate. But as far as I know, the Worldnet Engineers have nothing to do with the transport network (Sonet/DWDM). They may order capacity on it but that's about it.
Fixed uneven quote tags. ~sorto' |
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EnasYorl
Thieves World
join:2001-12-02
West
·Verizon Online DSL
3 edits | said by funinatl :said by EnasYorl :Exactly. Core group is mostly Layer 1/2 (SONET and DWDM) transport and Switching (PSTN), But the Engineers running Worldnet do the lion's share of Layer 3 management for all networks. Your first sentence is accurate. But as far as I know, the Worldnet Engineers have nothing to do with the transport network (Sonet/DWDM). They may order capacity on it but that's about it. I never said they the WorldNet Engineers did Layer1/2 did I. better re-read it.
Fixed uneven quote tags. ~sorto' |
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NormanS
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
·Pacific Bell - SBC
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Curious! Just who owns the "attbi.net" domain, anyway? Registrant is still AT&T, but administrative contact is Comcast.
Anyway, in the late 1980s, the U.S. government broke up the old AT&T monopoly; creating AT&T as a long distance telephone service with the AT&T R&D division, and seven RBOCs, or Regional Bell Operating Companies. Through assorted mergers along the way, the smallest RBOC, Southwestern Bell Telephone has become the largest of the remaining four RBOCs, SBC. The others are, Qwest, Bellsouth, and Verizon, which is the second largest RBOC. AT&T, on the other hand, more or less atrophied, selling off part after part. They remained the second largest wireless telephone company, after MCI.
Now the two largest RBOCs are buying the two largest wireless telephone companies; Verizon buying MCI, and SBC buying AT&T.
Or something like that.
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Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum |
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funinatl
join:2005-01-11
Grayson, GA
| said by NormanS :Curious! Just who owns the "attbi.net" domain, anyway? Registrant is still AT&T, but administrative contact is Comcast. I'm sure the attbi domain went to Comcast when they bought AT&T Broadband from AT&T a few years ago.
said by NormanS :Anyway, in the late 1980s, the U.S. government broke up the old AT&T monopoly; creating AT&T as a long distance telephone service with the AT&T R&D division, and seven RBOCs, or Regional Bell Operating Companies. The AT&T breakup (divestiture) was effective January 1, 1984.
said by NormanS : Now the two largest RBOCs are buying the two largest wireless telephone companies; Verizon buying MCI, and SBC buying AT&T. Actually they are buying the two largest long distance companies. AT&T hasn't had any wireless since they sold AT&T Wireless to Cingular a couple years ago. |
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cousintim
join:2004-10-10
Dallas, TX
| said by funinatl :said by NormanS :Curious! Just who owns the "attbi.net" domain, anyway? Registrant is still AT&T, but administrative contact is Comcast. I'm sure the attbi domain went to Comcast when they bought AT&T Broadband from AT&T a few years ago. How are you "sure"? I thought that Comcast bought the right to use the AT&T name, including in the attbi domain name, for a period of time and then that right expired. The servers may still be listed as attbi in some places but they can not be marketed as such. |
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Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
Premium
join:2001-11-29
Erie, PA
| said by cousintim :How are you "sure"? I thought that Comcast bought the right to use the AT&T name, including in the attbi domain name, for a period of time and then that right expired. The servers may still be listed as attbi in some places but they can not be marketed as such. Comcast got everything ATTBI. Do a whois, the only thing that says AT&T is the Registrant. It doesn't even resolve to anything anymore. I imagine Comcast probably doesn't even really remember they have it cause it still points to att.net name-servers.
Come October 2nd 2007 the domain will probably die.. that is unless the Autistic Telepaths Troubled by Bovine Impersonators decides they need to set up a website.
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funinatl
join:2005-01-11
Grayson, GA
| reply to cousintim
said by cousintim :How are you "sure"? I thought that Comcast bought the right to use the AT&T name, including in the attbi domain name, for a period of time and then that right expired. The servers may still be listed as attbi in some places but they can not be marketed as such. Because Comcast bought AT&T Broadband in it's entirety and the attbi domain name went with it. I'm not aware of Comcast buying any rights to use the AT&T name. You may be thinking of Cingular buying the rights to use the AT&T name when they bought AT&T Wireless. |
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nguyen27
join:2003-05-14
Quincy, MA | reply to lostboy8
Actually I remembered we got f*ck up with ATTBI.com domain after Comcast took over, we got migrated off ATTBI so Comcast can give it back to ATT. But look like round and round we go, everything end up the same as before. |
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rx74me
join:2001-08-07
Frisco, TX | reply to lostboy8
Didn't the ftc/goverment force AT&T to split up a long time ago? So why are they slowly letting them all merge back to
the oligopoly/monopoly again.... |
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