Thaler
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| reply to Kearnstd
Re: Still no reason for DRM stuff.
said by Kearnstd  :Copyright Law grants you the right to make copies for personal use, so yes you can hack the DRM if you want to make a copy for personal use only. Ah, but now you're violating DMCA by bypassing copy protection services! True, you have the right to make a backup copy for personal uses...but if that involves breaking copy protection, you're now skating on the illegal side of the law here. This would be the big issue behind why people are upset with the existance of DMCA today.  |
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Fatal Vector
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Of course, you COULD just hook up a plain old CD player to your sound card and record in .WAV to your hard drive and then convert to MP 3. This is, of course, the fatal flaw in DRM, since there are oodles of recorder programs and the CD would have to work with regular CD players.
It is, perhaps, a harder way to do it, but, in the end, if one wants it bad enough...And, the added bonus is the DRM crap is stripped off the recording. |
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Thaler
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| said by Fatal Vector :
Of course, you COULD just hook up a plain old CD player to your sound card and record in .WAV to your hard drive and then convert to MP 3. This is, of course, the fatal flaw in DRM, since there are oodles of recorder programs and the CD would have to work with regular CD players. True, I know there are ways to defeat DRM, but that doesn't mean I have to accept it as a consumer product. If I have to arrange that kind of conversion, just to get to use the product in the way I want, I'd call that defective, and issue an expedient return back to the retail chain. |
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koolman2
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Nope. The DMCA cannot hinder or modify any other law set forth before.
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iamsomeone
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isnt hooking up a CD player to your sound card also circumventing copyright protection? (albeit in another manner) Wouldnt this also technically be illegal due to the DMCA? |
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Thaler
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said by koolman2 :Nope. The DMCA cannot hinder or modify any other law set forth before. They're not...they just interfere with the way backup technologies work today. (ie. you try and back up a DVD sans decrypting) Look at DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink, which have essentially caved into industry pressure, thanks to the DMCA. Hell, the no-autorun "hack" inventor was to be charged w/ DMCA violations, for bypassing copy protection for MP3 ripping/home backup purposes.
The DMCA is alive and well, thanks in part that it doesn't explicitly modify our "fair use" rights. However, it's implementation very much so throws a kink in the procedure for home-backup purposes. |
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koolman2
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| It does, though. We are legally allowed to make a single copy for our own use. The DMCA states that you can't get past encryption, but that interferes with the original law, so it's null and void.
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Thaler
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| said by koolman2 :The DMCA states that you can't get past encryption, but that interferes with the original law, so it's null and void. Well, that's something one of the DVD-Backup software companies needs to ride out to court. However, if I recall, many so far have either settled, or weren't successful alltogether. |
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