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yengec

join:2000-03-24
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What do you think of Cadillac STS?

Hi All,

I always liked late 90s Caddys, especially the STS. I've never owned a Caddy but I had very good luck with the one and only GM product I ever owned (a 95 Saturn which has 180K miles and still running strong).

What do you think about Cadillac's when it comes to reliability? I am especially interested in 97-2001 STS.

Thanks all,
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Well I got an 89 Eldorado, and she stills runs great with 140,000+ miles on it!Cadi's are built like a tank(Not sure about the newer cadis).If you get in a car wreck in that thing, there'd probably be only a dent in the door, while the other car would be totaled...Plus they are very comfortable, and powerful(Leather seats, wood trim, digital display(Older models), V8 4.5L, Climate control, electronically controlled seats, etc...).
If I could, I'd get another Cadi(I really like the V-series, XLR-V.Supercharged!).
I'd highly recommend a cadi.
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satburn
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Father had one. Only problems were a pesky a/c compressor that went out (twice), I think it was due to the auto climate control that kept it engaged all the time.


91439306
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Yeah the a/c on my '68 Caddy was always leaky and I kept cans of R12 refrigerant in the shop so I could recharge it every spring. But nice car, and you couldn't even feel the road, like you were floating on a cloud. New car drivers don't know what it's like to have a smooth ride, with today's stiff sports suspensions that make you feel ever pothole you hit. And that 472 cu in V8... nice motor. I miss those days. Mine rusted away. RIP, Caddy Sedan DeVille.
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I've only had my first Caddy for about 2 months (2005 CTS). So far it's been great. It has a super good warranty to boot. In 2001 my parents bought a 1999 STS. They bought it from »www.autocentersofstlouis.com/abo···m?bhcp=1 , not a Cadillac dealer but a pre-owned place that deals with higher end cars.

After having the car for about a month the oil light came on. My dad has been an ASE certified mechanic for over 25 years and he checked it out. The car was about 2 quarts low so he filled and looked for a leak. After that the car would consume a quart of oil every 2 days. They never found a leak. The car ended up being called a lemon and my parents got their money back but my friend that's a mechanic at Bommarito Cadillac says he has seen a lot of the Northstar V8's have that problem.
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I've heard a lot of bad things about the Northstar engines, like how good they are at making boat anchors.


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I had a '94 Eldorado Touring Coupe. The manual said it could do 140mph. I had it up to 145 and it felt like it still could pull. The faster I went the better the road feel in that car. Great engine and great car. The STS should feel almost the same.


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The new STS is comparible to its european rivals. The ones before 2005, were ummmm American. Let me just put it there are better and more reliable car for the money.
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I checked Consumer Reports...but they indicated they don't have enough survey responses to make a statistically significant prediction of that cars reliability, since it is so new.

However their review did indicate it was a really nice car to be in and drive...

Traditionally Cadillacs have not been the most reliable...but American automakers have closed some of the reliability gap w/ Japan, and are outdoing the European cars sold in the US (according to Consumer Reports surveys).

Although if I had to guess, I'd guess that it won't be the most reliable car.


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said by CtrlAltDel See Profile :

I had a '94 Eldorado Touring Coupe. The manual said it could do 140mph. I had it up to 145 and it felt like it still could pull. The faster I went the better the road feel in that car. Great engine and great car. The STS should feel almost the same.
You must have had the modded chip in your car's computer. Factory cars are programmed to kill the ignition when the speed reaches 125mph. This is a federal requirement by law enforcement.
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I have seen quite a few go through the dealership, and for the most part I would have to say they are pretty nice cars.

No serious service issues on any of them, and the owners all enjoy the driving experience. Of course, any car can have troubles, but I would say the Cadillac nameplate is getting better with age.

-Matt


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said by 91439306 See Profile :

Factory cars are programmed to kill the ignition when the speed reaches 125mph. This is a federal requirement by law enforcement.
Where did you see that?
»www.khnl.com/global/story.asp?s=2590682
»www.internetautoguide.com/review···ro/2001/

I've also been in a brand new unmodified TransAM doing 144 and the governor didn't kick in.


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said by 91439306 See Profile :

Factory cars are programmed to kill the ignition when the speed reaches 125mph. This is a federal requirement by law enforcement.
There is a little misinformation there. It is true that cars are programmed to kill the ignition, at certain speeds. Who specifies this speed is not law enforcement however, it is the vehicle manufacturer, based on the speed rating of the particular tire the vehicle shipped with, as this would be a point of failure that would expose the maker to liability if not addressed. Hence, the pre-programmed speed limiter.

If it has a higher speed-rating tire, it can go faster, so those high-end cars with "exotic" rubber on them will have no trouble hitting those blazing speeds.

-Matt


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Minor distinction, typically it is fuel that is intermittantly cut on vehicles that have a speed limiter.

Japan has a mandated 180 km/h fuel cut for all vehicles.
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said by CtrlAltDel See Profile :

I had a '94 Eldorado Touring Coupe. The manual said it could do 140mph. I had it up to 145 and it felt like it still could pull. The faster I went the better the road feel in that car. Great engine and great car. The STS should feel almost the same.
You must have had the modded chip in your car's computer. Factory cars are programmed to kill the ignition when the speed reaches 125mph. This is a federal requirement by law enforcement.
No chip! Stock, standard ETC Caddy. My stock 96 Jimmy would cut out at 90mph and my current Yukon dies at 95mph and it does have a performance chip. Go figure.


Thorax
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reply to yengec
The 94 would have been OBD1 and not OBD2 that has the fuel/spark cut speed limiting.
I seriously doubt that a 4.9 motor could pull much above 110-120'ish no matter the situation (downhill with a tailwind ?). The chassis on that car was terrible and it was FWD.
1996 and newer is ODB2 which has enough on board electronics for the speed limiting which is generally set at 155 mph on cars capable of doing so (Vette/Camaro/Firebird) and in the 90's for most trucks (90-99 mph).
It is possible to remove the software limitations but the factory flash file has to be edited, this is dealer level only, the equipment to do so has never been released to the aftermarket.
I've personally done it to a few GM vehicles before, I know what's involved.
It takes a special version of the GM only Tech2 (not the vertronics wanna-be, the real HP unit) and dealer proprietary desktop interface that is sattelite linked to GM corporate.

If you don't have that equipment, you don't get there.


mkt624

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I know when the Northstar was first installed in the Cadillacs they were not governed because I worked at a Cadillac dealership when a Highway Patrol officer came in to test drive one because he had heard about the power they had. He got in the car with hat & uniform & took it onto the interstate where he ultimately ran it up to 147mph before he slowed down. What was funny is on his way back to the dealership he was running the speed limit & anytime someone passed by speeding they would look over & see that it was a Highway patrolman & automatically slow down & let him pass them.


nfixit2004
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reply to yengec
I owned 2 caddys before 88 deville and a 91 I think when they started using aluminum motors it made them not so tuff as they used to be. If you buy used and it was treated well you should have a great car on your hands!

also my 88 deville had 85mph on the dash, and I can bet it ran a lot faster than that! I used to walk on a lot of cars that had 140 on the dash!
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