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GOLFnSUN
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 The bidders won't like "open network" requirement

Portland is looking not only for a company that is willing to foot the entire cost of the project but one that will also build an open network, one over which competing ISPs can deliver their services.
Portland is being unrealistic. They want a vendor that is willing to risk its capital to build the network, but is also willing to give up any hope of getting a return by opening the network to all ISPs. They really should make a choice - build it themselves(pay to have it built) and open it to all ISPs or pick a vendor that will build it with their own money and be the sole ISP provider.

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The outline is essentially identical to what EarthLink is building in Anaheim.
Really? Then why is Earthlink building a similar system in Anaheim?
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The outline is essentially identical to what EarthLink is building in Anaheim.
Really? Then why is Earthlink building a similar system in Anaheim?
Because their CEO is desperately trying to stem the erosion of his company's market share and trying to keep his company from going broke. And that decision was a bad one IMHO as an experienced investor.
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jazzy112

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kinda pointless to be open, in order to be open to different backbones you would have to have a fully bridged system. Do you have any Idea what that would do to latency? Now I can understand, having the ability to use your airport credentials to log on to the system but other than that it's pointless to claim you are "open". In this case say "Boingo", if a user logged on to a "non Boingo" system, then boingo would be responsible for paying the system owner for the use and then billing the customer for the roaming.

This is a totally different scenario than cable or dsl sharing. With cable and dsl sharing, if you chose a wannabe you get a different backbone to the internet. On a wireless system, if you want to use a competitor then you are simply roaming. Nothing about the network will change just because you want to use a wannabe to save a couple bucks, it will most likely end up costing you more. Cellular providers don't have to let competitors customers use their system, however most willingly negotiate with each other to be able to offer better services and create the image of a larger network.


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If you're such an experienced investor, then why are 10 (TEN) companies expected to bid? I mean, by your definition, only the desperate companies will bid on it. So all 10 of those companies are led by idiots? Hmm.. lets do the math.. a poster who has to change his nick every 2 months due to bad karma, or 10 CEO's of experienced data companies. Guess which one I'll give more credence too.

As far as the 'open' part goes. Why is it a loss of money to build an 'open' network? Portland is thinking of the benefits of it's citizens, and giving companies an OPPORTUNITY to provide a service. Guess what if you want to do business in portland, and you want to avoid dealing with the hassles of permitting/etc that the city will make you go through if you don't play by their rules, then you bid on this contract. How is this feature preventing ANY OTHER COMPANY from building their own competing network? It's not.

If you don't like it as an investor, then why don't you tell the company you invest in to go build their own? (hmm.. sort of ironic isn't it, as you're the one who always says that if we don't like our ISP we should go start our own).

(shoe is on the other foot now isn't it...)
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