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gg5

join:2005-10-09

No need for definition

"Alan Davidson of the Center for Democracy & Technology two years ago... stated the biggest obstacle to crafting effective anti-spyware laws was getting everyone to agree on what spyware is."

Actually, no. The main obstacle is that lobbyists, for both scumware makers and mainstream software companies alike, will prevent any effective legislation being passed, because it migh restrain them from making money.

The secondary obstacle is the dumb idea that to be effective against spyware/adware, a law must rely on defining spyware/adware. This misguided idea can only lead to legal quibbles over what category a program belongs in, and a law as useless as the fake anti-spam law.

What's needed is something much simpler. Let's have a law that makes three requirements for *all* software:

1. No installation without the computer owner's informed consent.

2. Full disclosure of exactly what the software does, in plain English, without the user having to read tiny print, interpret legalese, or link from one page to another.

3. An easy way to remove the software at any time, completely, including reversal of any changes it made to the system.

If these rules were applied to all software, there would be no lack of legal protection against the spyware/adware problem - without any need to define spyware or adware.


GeneStarwind

join:2001-12-13
Fairfax, VA

It would be a good start, but disambiguation of those rules would be required. Those worthless spy/mal/scum/crap/shitware vendors have scores of people working for them to circumvent their software around any such otherwise-reasonable rules. All it takes is to adequately twist and exploit the non-specificities of them in their EULA, and their software's back on your computer with just as much ease, with or without your knowledge and consent.

AnnaS8

join:2005-05-26
Annapolis, MD

reply to gg5
said by gg5 See Profile :

"Alan Davidson of the Center for Democracy & Technology two years ago... stated the biggest obstacle to crafting effective anti-spyware laws was getting everyone to agree on what spyware is."

Actually, no. The main obstacle is that lobbyists, for both scumware makers and mainstream software companies alike, will prevent any effective legislation being passed, because it migh restrain them from making money.

The secondary obstacle is the dumb idea that to be effective against spyware/adware, a law must rely on defining spyware/adware. This misguided idea can only lead to legal quibbles over what category a program belongs in, and a law as useless as the fake anti-spam law.

What's needed is something much simpler. Let's have a law that makes three requirements for *all* software:

1. No installation without the computer owner's informed consent.

2. Full disclosure of exactly what the software does, in plain English, without the user having to read tiny print, interpret legalese, or link from one page to another.

3. An easy way to remove the software at any time, completely, including reversal of any changes it made to the system.

If these rules were applied to all software, there would be no lack of legal protection against the spyware/adware problem - without any need to define spyware or adware.
Amen


BronsCon

join:2003-10-24
Cleveland, OH
reply to gg5
Define 'easy'.


Ark

join:2002-06-08
Hudsonville, MI
·AT&T Midwest

reply to gg5
Unfortunately (3) is somewhat impossible most of the time. Many regisitry keys a program may set under the current user will be entirely unavailable during the uninstall process for anybody but the user doing the uninstall, so you almost always leave orphaned registry entries for any other user that ran the program.
Sometimes a program will update a shared system file like msvbvm60.dll or some related OCX file. Deleting that file or downgrading the file to the original version may break other applications that where installed afterwards. It's not always desirable to rollback *all* changes, even if you try to keep track of install-reference counts.
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