bereasonable
@cable.rogers
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Re: Great Plan
then why pay for high speed if you are "garden variety" users??? there's just absolutely no point to having high speed if all you do is read blogs and upload school projects, send emails... blah blah blah... people use bt for legit reasons, some don't. there's no way to police what is legit and what isn't. take for example 3dgamers.com where you can download updates for games and demos via BT. are you saying i should wait 5 weeks to download a 300mb demo, paying 45.00$ a month for "HIGH SPEED" ??? |
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
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join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA
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October 26th, @05:53PM
| Cause I want the low latency and don't want to tie up my phone line. Broadband existed long before the popular P2P craze. |
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bereasonable
@cable.rogers | get high speed ultra lite then if you don't wanna tie up your phone line? do you know what you are talking about? dsl doesn't tie up your home phone line either...? you confuse me. |
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r81984
Tough to beat.
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join:2001-11-14
Morgan City, LA | reply to oliphant
p2p started way before broadband. I used to use napster on my dial up way before broadband was popular or even close to being widespread. |
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bereasonable
@cable.rogers | what point are you trying to make? p2p started before broadband -- so what? go try to download a 600mb demo on dial up and tell me how many days it takes. have you played on-line games using dial up? try it then come back and make a point. |
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radarman
join:2005-06-01
Odenton, MD
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I have a broadband connection because FreeBSD (at the time) was releasing new versions a lot more frequently, and broadband made running 'cvsup ports' and 'portupgrade -rR ' feasible. (try that on a dialup...)
As a bonus, I can access my system from work or while travelling, and check on things. This is one MAJOR reason I have broadband.
More lately, though, I have enjoyed having it because I save a crap load of money by using Vonage for all of my long distance calls. I figure I probably save over a $100/mo (in all seriousness, probably closer to $150/mo) by not paying per minute.
And no, I don't run any P2P apps. |
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bereasonable
@cable.rogers
| my argumement is, the internet is evolving and the needs of each individual customer varies. perhaps some company needs to exist for people alone like myself who aren't just garden variety users. we may be using the connection for different reasons. but we both expect to get what we pay for. am i right or am i wrong? |
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Fluker
join:2005-04-07
West Lafayette, IN | reply to bereasonable
Thank you.
Broadband does have legit uses.
Although my 300gb monthly indicates otherwise..... |
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G_Poobah
join:2004-01-17
Schenectady, NY
| 300gb/month?
so, your traffic looks a lot like mine!
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LittlePoohBah
@mindspring.com
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IPingUPing 
| You need to get out more. There's actually other things to do then seeing how much you use the internet on a week to week basis. Try getting a girlfriend |
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
Premium
join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA
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October 26th, @06:54PM
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said by r81984 :p2p started way before broadband. I used to use napster on my dial up way before broadband was popular or even close to being widespread. I had Cox@Home in late 1996...before Napster was a wet spot on the mattress. No, P2P didn't start way before broadband.
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
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join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA
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October 26th, @06:55PM
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said by bereasonable :
get high speed ultra lite then if you don't wanna tie up your phone line? do you know what you are talking about? dsl doesn't tie up your home phone line either...? you confuse me.
Ultralite...what the hell is that? Broadband is broadband whether it's 768kbps DSL or 7.1Mbps DSL. And no, DSL doesn't tie of my phone line...that's the whole point which is why the original poster is in error. There are plenty of reasons to have broadband and none of them include P2P.
Yes, you are easily confused.
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stickstickly
@insightBB.com | reply to oliphant
And USENET and IRC were around long before Cox@Home, so what's your point? |
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Galford
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join:2001-02-24
Kingstree, SC | reply to r81984
he is right i had napsters too and audiogalaxy and winmx long before Bellsouth rolled out its DSL |
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Goober
join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
 ·WOW Internet and C..
·Comcast
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said by bereasonable :
then why pay for high speed if you are "garden variety" users??? there's just absolutely no point to having high speed if all you do is read blogs and upload school projects, send emails... blah blah blah... people use bt for legit reasons, some don't. there's no way to police what is legit and what isn't. take for example 3dgamers.com where you can download updates for games and demos via BT. are you saying i should wait 5 weeks to download a 300mb demo, paying 45.00$ a month for "HIGH SPEED" ???
I'm not saying anything about what YOU can do. I'm just saying that there're many more uses for broadband than p2p.
I'm 40 years old, I'm not just reading blogs and uploading school projects. And that may just point to the difference in thought.
Kiddees may not have any other reason for high speed access, but those that aren't under 15 years old have potentially more useful things to do on the internet. |
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Goober
join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
·WOW Internet and C..
·Comcast
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said by oliphant :said by r81984 :p2p started way before broadband. I used to use napster on my dial up way before broadband was popular or even close to being widespread. I had Cox@Home in late 1996...before Napster was a wet spot on the mattress. No, P2P didn't start way before broadband. Absolutely agreed. I started with Flashcom 416/416 SDSL from Northpoint back in late 1996. |
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heels_fan
1.20.09 The start of Socialism
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join:2003-02-07
Columbia, TN
| reply to G_Poobah
Broadband internet use is so overated |
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alg
On the road to Shambala
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Austin, TX
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| reply to oliphant
said by oliphant :Yes, you are easily confused. I was thinking the same thing. |
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alg
On the road to Shambala
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join:2001-04-10
Austin, TX
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| reply to LittlePoohBah
said by LittlePoohBah :
You need to get out more. There's actually other things to do then seeing how much you use the internet on a week to week basis. Try getting a girlfriend
High download numbers =! lot of time on the computer.  |
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IPingUPing
N4BFR
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Smyrna, GA
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What P2P is is just a way for cheap companies to push the connectivity costs off to the users and ISP's. If you want to distribute a patch for your game buy a pipe or don't get in the business. I can probably count on my hand the legitimate users of P2P, let's be real about this. |
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