some guy
@milwwi.ameritech | Great Plan
p2p users will switch ports
they aren't that stupid
p2p is the reason people buy broadband-no p2p, no customers |
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Goober
join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL | Pretty gross generalization. I don't do it for that reason and neither do my parents. I would imagine that we're pretty much garden-variety users. |
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
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join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA
| reply to some guy
said by some guy :
p2p users will switch ports
they aren't that stupid
p2p is the reason people buy broadband-no p2p, no customers
LOL...oh yeah...everyone on broadband is on there for P2P. LMAO Wishful thinking there sport.
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bereasonable
@cable.rogers
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then why pay for high speed if you are "garden variety" users??? there's just absolutely no point to having high speed if all you do is read blogs and upload school projects, send emails... blah blah blah... people use bt for legit reasons, some don't. there's no way to police what is legit and what isn't. take for example 3dgamers.com where you can download updates for games and demos via BT. are you saying i should wait 5 weeks to download a 300mb demo, paying 45.00$ a month for "HIGH SPEED" ??? |
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oliphant
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join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA
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October 26th, @05:53PM
| Cause I want the low latency and don't want to tie up my phone line. Broadband existed long before the popular P2P craze. |
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TK Junk Mail
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join:2002-03-03
Margate City, NJ
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said by some guy :
p2p users will switch ports
they aren't that stupid
p2p is the reason people buy broadband-no p2p, no customers
And the ISP's will buy already existing hardware that recognizes traffic type no matter what port they are on.
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bereasonable
@cable.rogers | reply to oliphant
get high speed ultra lite then if you don't wanna tie up your phone line? do you know what you are talking about? dsl doesn't tie up your home phone line either...? you confuse me. |
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r81984
Tough to beat.
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join:2001-11-14
Morgan City, LA | reply to oliphant
p2p started way before broadband. I used to use napster on my dial up way before broadband was popular or even close to being widespread. |
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bereasonable
@cable.rogers | what point are you trying to make? p2p started before broadband -- so what? go try to download a 600mb demo on dial up and tell me how many days it takes. have you played on-line games using dial up? try it then come back and make a point. |
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radarman
join:2005-06-01
Odenton, MD
| reply to bereasonable
I have a broadband connection because FreeBSD (at the time) was releasing new versions a lot more frequently, and broadband made running 'cvsup ports' and 'portupgrade -rR ' feasible. (try that on a dialup...)
As a bonus, I can access my system from work or while travelling, and check on things. This is one MAJOR reason I have broadband.
More lately, though, I have enjoyed having it because I save a crap load of money by using Vonage for all of my long distance calls. I figure I probably save over a $100/mo (in all seriousness, probably closer to $150/mo) by not paying per minute.
And no, I don't run any P2P apps. |
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greatideas
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My point exactly,
Who needs REALLY fast speeds? Believe it or not, (hey ripley) alot of 'winners' make money from p2p: hardware companies, media (blanks) companies, right down to the guy that puts the fiber/dsl/cable line to the building. These people earn a living, stop p2p, and you plug-up your return on investment, ie shoot yourself in the foot. The tricky part is when telcos become telco/cablecos and have a vested interest in skimming from both pots, things will get interesting, to say the least... |
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bereasonable
@cable.rogers
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my argumement is, the internet is evolving and the needs of each individual customer varies. perhaps some company needs to exist for people alone like myself who aren't just garden variety users. we may be using the connection for different reasons. but we both expect to get what we pay for. am i right or am i wrong? |
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Fluker
join:2005-04-07
West Lafayette, IN | reply to bereasonable
Thank you.
Broadband does have legit uses.
Although my 300gb monthly indicates otherwise..... |
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G_Poobah
join:2004-01-17
Schenectady, NY
| 300gb/month?
so, your traffic looks a lot like mine!
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G_Poobah
join:2004-01-17
Schenectady, NY | reply to TK Junk Mail
yes, but I'll encrypt my traffic, then they can't tell what kind of traffic it is..
It's coming, it can't be stopped.
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LittlePoohBah
@mindspring.com
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You need to get out more. There's actually other things to do then seeing how much you use the internet on a week to week basis. Try getting a girlfriend |
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oliphant
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join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA
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October 26th, @06:54PM
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said by r81984 :p2p started way before broadband. I used to use napster on my dial up way before broadband was popular or even close to being widespread. I had Cox@Home in late 1996...before Napster was a wet spot on the mattress. No, P2P didn't start way before broadband.
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whoamIoramI
join:2004-05-17
Jersey City, NJ
 ·Verizon Online DSL
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the last time I used P2P was when napster was free back in 2000 or so.
I have broadband bec I need it for my school. My profs post powerpoints ranging from 5-80mb...just would take too long with dial up.
My parents have broadband as do my brothers and none use P2P. So that is 4 households right there with broadband but no P2P usage. |
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oliphant
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join:2004-11-26
Corona, CA
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October 26th, @06:55PM
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said by bereasonable :
get high speed ultra lite then if you don't wanna tie up your phone line? do you know what you are talking about? dsl doesn't tie up your home phone line either...? you confuse me.
Ultralite...what the hell is that? Broadband is broadband whether it's 768kbps DSL or 7.1Mbps DSL. And no, DSL doesn't tie of my phone line...that's the whole point which is why the original poster is in error. There are plenty of reasons to have broadband and none of them include P2P.
Yes, you are easily confused.
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stickstickly
@insightBB.com | reply to oliphant
And USENET and IRC were around long before Cox@Home, so what's your point? |
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