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jchin

join:2005-10-05
10300

[TWC] Level3 breaks public peering

FYI everyone ... Level3.NET has decided to turn off public peering with Cogent (and others) this morning at 6am.

What does this mean?

Anyone with connections through Level3.NET (like RoadRunner) cannot access certain Internet sites because Level3.NET refuses to route to them.

This is just greed! Level3 basically wants everyone who peers with them to pay, and not provide any free public peering.

Everyone should call Level3.NET at 877-453-8353 and complain.

I am a RoadRunner customer and can no longer access my office because my office is connected via Cogent.

Level3 needs to hear from the Internet community that what they are doing is wrong.


Hall
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
kudos:1

RR will simply update their routing tables to word "around" the problem and they'll probably do this quickly.


dh10

join:2005-04-25
New York, NY

reply to jchin
you'd think RR would post something simple like this on the network status page instead of the red dot mumbo jumbo they have for nyc.rr.com


Flizesh
Premium
join:2003-08-16
United State

reply to jchin
If you're lucky you'll get to use ATDN where it pings 100 in prime time!


psubill78
Premium
join:2003-01-26
Kenosha, WI

reply to Hall
Not that quickly - it's been broken for very much of the day today



zess

@rr.com

Do you have a link to where you found this information about level3



Hall
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
kudos:1

said by zess :

Do you have a link to where you found this information about level3
FWIW, someone in Wisconsin has ran into a routing problem because of this, »[TWC] Roadrunner blocking site? .


zess

@rr.com

I have ran into a routing problems also. 2 of the sites i visit i cant connect to and both fail after the same hop.

p16-5-0-0.r00.chcgil06.us.bb.verio.net


CRUC1AL JMM

join:2005-03-28
Charlotte, NC

reply to jchin
I live in NC and jus spoke to someone from TWC and was told that they are working on the problem, lol, we'll see



Hall
Premium,MVM
join:2000-04-28
Dayton, OH
kudos:1

The network status page at least has something that vaguely touches on the issue:




I've never seen them put "RoadRunner" or "All divisions" as the area affected before.

AnalogTiger

join:2004-02-24
Raleigh, NC

reply to zess
I am unable to get to photobucket.com today and when I did a traceroute the last hop was verio.atdn.net


helmut4

join:2000-02-27
Fenton, MO

same issues here...4 sites (3 in WI, 1 in MN) previously able to connect to a cogent ip went down around 4:50am central and haven't been able to connect since



Bman6952

@dsl.chcgil.ameritech

reply to AnalogTiger
Just use www.imageshack.us to host your images



mckenna797
Premium
join:2004-08-25
Astoria, NY

reply to jchin
I have been able to connect to the federal goverment employees thrift savings plan website most of my other sites i can connect to


dh10

join:2005-04-25
New York, NY

reply to jchin
further...

my own domain, which has not been reachable by me from roadrunner, can be reached directly by a friend on the att network, so roadrunner's problems today may be even broader than connectivity with cogent.



dellsweig
Extreme Aerobatics
Premium,MVM
join:2003-12-10
Campbell Hall, NY
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Vonage

reply to jchin
Yep

I can no longer get to www.weatherunderground.com

My weather station started reporting connectivity problems at 5:56 AM this morning. I guess that is when they pulled the plug.

Who do you complain to - Road Runner?? I bet their tech support is clueless


psubill78
Premium
join:2003-01-26
Kenosha, WI

I'm in an online chat with a RR tech support, and they are just saying "routing issues outside of their network, with no ETA on resolution"

This will effect more and more throughout the day as people notice issues.



dellsweig
Extreme Aerobatics
Premium,MVM
join:2003-12-10
Campbell Hall, NY
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Vonage

1 edit

reply to jchin
Well - Just for grins and giggles - I 'called' TW help desk

Lanze L> There is an issue routing to certain networks outside of Road Runner. This is due to a high level network restructuring and sites that are hosted on the affected network should become available again when the restructuring is complete. We currently have no ETA on resolution.

Lanze L> Was there anything else that we can help you with?

I am sure glad I dont work on a help desk.......



dellsweig
Extreme Aerobatics
Premium,MVM
join:2003-12-10
Campbell Hall, NY
kudos:1
Reviews:
·Vonage

1 edit

reply to jchin
Has anyone been able to get an update on this??

I am being impacted here in NY (TWRR Hudson Valley)

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Dan>tracert www.yahoo.com

Tracing route to www.yahoo.akadns.net [68.142.226.35]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 10 ms 12 ms 8 ms 10.104.48.1
3 9 ms 9 ms 11 ms 24-164-161-1.hvc.rr.com [24.164.161.1]
4 11 ms 12 ms 12 ms 24.164.160.53
5 11 ms 13 ms 16 ms so-7-1.car2.Weehawken1.Level3.net [63.208.104.41
]
6 12 ms 11 ms 13 ms ge-7-0-0.mp2.Weehawken1.Level3.net [4.68.125.141
]
7 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms ae-0-0.bbr1.Washington1.Level3.net [64.159.0.229
]
8 16 ms 17 ms 26 ms ge-3-0-0-55.gar1.Washington1.Level3.net [4.68.12
1.130]
9 18 ms 22 ms 16 ms 63.210.29.230
10 18 ms 21 ms 16 ms t-3-1.bas2.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.33.95]
11 19 ms 17 ms 18 ms p4.www.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.226.35]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Dan>tracert www.wunderground.com

Tracing route to www.wunderground.com [66.28.250.176]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 9 ms 9 ms 10 ms 10.104.48.1
3 8 ms 9 ms 7 ms 24-164-161-1.hvc.rr.com [24.164.161.1]
4 9 ms 11 ms 11 ms 24.164.160.53
5 11 ms 10 ms 11 ms pos2-0-nycmnya-rtr2.nyc.rr.com [24.29.101.253]
6 12 ms 14 ms 11 ms pop2-nye-P13-3.atdn.net [66.185.141.37]
7 11 ms 15 ms 11 ms bb1-nye-P1-0.atdn.net [66.185.151.64]
8 11 ms 13 ms 14 ms pop1-nye-P0-0.atdn.net [66.185.151.49]
9 12 ms 11 ms 16 ms Verio.atdn.net [66.185.139.150]
10 14 ms 12 ms 12 ms p16-0-1-3.r21.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.
3.48]
11 20 ms 19 ms 17 ms p16-1-2-2.r21.asbnva01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250.
4.27]
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 *


I'm being impacted here in Florida alot, i cant access any of my websites, and im having problems connecting to anyone that peers with cogent aswell, and you know what pissess me off? road runner wont update me on anything, they give me these BS generic replys like they are some lawn gnome, pathetic.

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