 jchin
join:2005-10-05 10300
| [TWC] Level3 breaks public peering
FYI everyone ... Level3.NET has decided to turn off public peering with Cogent (and others) this morning at 6am.
What does this mean?
Anyone with connections through Level3.NET (like RoadRunner) cannot access certain Internet sites because Level3.NET refuses to route to them.
This is just greed! Level3 basically wants everyone who peers with them to pay, and not provide any free public peering.
Everyone should call Level3.NET at 877-453-8353 and complain.
I am a RoadRunner customer and can no longer access my office because my office is connected via Cogent.
Level3 needs to hear from the Internet community that what they are doing is wrong. |
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  Hall Premium,MVM join:2000-04-28 Dayton, OH | RR will simply update their routing tables to word "around" the problem and they'll probably do this quickly. |
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 dh10
join:2005-04-25 New York, NY | reply to jchin you'd think RR would post something simple like this on the network status page instead of the red dot mumbo jumbo they have for nyc.rr.com |
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 Flizesh Premium join:2003-08-16 Staten Island, NY clubs: | reply to jchin If you're lucky you'll get to use ATDN where it pings 100 in prime time!  |
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 psubill78 Premium join:2003-01-26 Kenosha, WI | reply to Hall Not that quickly - it's been broken for very much of the day today |
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  zess
@rr.com | Do you have a link to where you found this information about level3 |
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  Hall Premium,MVM join:2000-04-28 Dayton, OH
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| said by zess :
Do you have a link to where you found this information about level3 FWIW, someone in Wisconsin has ran into a routing problem because of this, »[TWC] Roadrunner blocking site? . |
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  zess
@rr.com | I have ran into a routing problems also. 2 of the sites i visit i cant connect to and both fail after the same hop.
p16-5-0-0.r00.chcgil06.us.bb.verio.net |
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 CRUC1AL JMM
join:2005-03-28 Charlotte, NC | reply to jchin I live in NC and jus spoke to someone from TWC and was told that they are working on the problem, lol, we'll see |
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  Hall Premium,MVM join:2000-04-28 Dayton, OH
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| The network status page at least has something that vaguely touches on the issue:

I've never seen them put "RoadRunner" or "All divisions" as the area affected before. |
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 AnalogTiger
join:2004-02-24 Raleigh, NC | reply to zess I am unable to get to photobucket.com today and when I did a traceroute the last hop was verio.atdn.net |
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 helmut4
join:2000-02-27 Fenton, MO | same issues here...4 sites (3 in WI, 1 in MN) previously able to connect to a cogent ip went down around 4:50am central and haven't been able to connect since |
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  Bman6952
@chcgil.ameritech | reply to AnalogTiger Just use www.imageshack.us to host your images |
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  mckenna797
join:2004-08-25 Astoria, NY | reply to jchin I have been able to connect to the federal goverment employees thrift savings plan website most of my other sites i can connect to |
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 dh10
join:2005-04-25 New York, NY | reply to jchin further...
my own domain, which has not been reachable by me from roadrunner, can be reached directly by a friend on the att network, so roadrunner's problems today may be even broader than connectivity with cogent. |
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  dellsweig Extreme Aerobatics Premium,MVM join:2003-12-10 Campbell Hall, NY
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| reply to jchin Yep
I can no longer get to www.weatherunderground.com
My weather station started reporting connectivity problems at 5:56 AM this morning. I guess that is when they pulled the plug.
Who do you complain to - Road Runner?? I bet their tech support is clueless |
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 psubill78 Premium join:2003-01-26 Kenosha, WI | I'm in an online chat with a RR tech support, and they are just saying "routing issues outside of their network, with no ETA on resolution"
This will effect more and more throughout the day as people notice issues. |
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  dellsweig Extreme Aerobatics Premium,MVM join:2003-12-10 Campbell Hall, NY
·Time Warner VOIP
1 edit | reply to jchin Well - Just for grins and giggles - I 'called' TW help desk
Lanze L> There is an issue routing to certain networks outside of Road Runner. This is due to a high level network restructuring and sites that are hosted on the affected network should become available again when the restructuring is complete. We currently have no ETA on resolution.
Lanze L> Was there anything else that we can help you with?
I am sure glad I dont work on a help desk....... |
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  dellsweig Extreme Aerobatics Premium,MVM join:2003-12-10 Campbell Hall, NY
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1 edit | reply to jchin Has anyone been able to get an update on this??
I am being impacted here in NY (TWRR Hudson Valley)
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\Dan>tracert www.yahoo.com
Tracing route to www.yahoo.akadns.net [68.142.226.35] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1 2 10 ms 12 ms 8 ms 10.104.48.1 3 9 ms 9 ms 11 ms 24-164-161-1.hvc.rr.com [24.164.161.1] 4 11 ms 12 ms 12 ms 24.164.160.53 5 11 ms 13 ms 16 ms so-7-1.car2.Weehawken1.Level3.net [63.208.104.41 ] 6 12 ms 11 ms 13 ms ge-7-0-0.mp2.Weehawken1.Level3.net [4.68.125.141 ] 7 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms ae-0-0.bbr1.Washington1.Level3.net [64.159.0.229 ] 8 16 ms 17 ms 26 ms ge-3-0-0-55.gar1.Washington1.Level3.net [4.68.12 1.130] 9 18 ms 22 ms 16 ms 63.210.29.230 10 18 ms 21 ms 16 ms t-3-1.bas2.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.33.95] 11 19 ms 17 ms 18 ms p4.www.re2.yahoo.com [68.142.226.35]
Trace complete.
C:\Documents and Settings\Dan>tracert www.wunderground.com
Tracing route to www.wunderground.com [66.28.250.176] over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1 2 9 ms 9 ms 10 ms 10.104.48.1 3 8 ms 9 ms 7 ms 24-164-161-1.hvc.rr.com [24.164.161.1] 4 9 ms 11 ms 11 ms 24.164.160.53 5 11 ms 10 ms 11 ms pos2-0-nycmnya-rtr2.nyc.rr.com [24.29.101.253] 6 12 ms 14 ms 11 ms pop2-nye-P13-3.atdn.net [66.185.141.37] 7 11 ms 15 ms 11 ms bb1-nye-P1-0.atdn.net [66.185.151.64] 8 11 ms 13 ms 14 ms pop1-nye-P0-0.atdn.net [66.185.151.49] 9 12 ms 11 ms 16 ms Verio.atdn.net [66.185.139.150] 10 14 ms 12 ms 12 ms p16-0-1-3.r21.nycmny01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250. 3.48] 11 20 ms 19 ms 17 ms p16-1-2-2.r21.asbnva01.us.bb.verio.net [129.250. 4.27] 12 * * * Request timed out. 13 * * * Request timed out. 14 * * * Request timed out. 15 * |
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  Level3sucks
@rr.com
| I'm being impacted here in Florida alot, i cant access any of my websites, and im having problems connecting to anyone that peers with cogent aswell, and you know what pissess me off? road runner wont update me on anything, they give me these BS generic replys like they are some lawn gnome, pathetic. |
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