Shamayim
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| throwaway Soloway
"Though it's unlikely he'll see much of the money . . ."
Whatever happened to the concept of if you don't pay up you go to jail?
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PhoenixDown
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clubs:   | Thats only if your not an incorporate entity or a high level company executive....
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tapeloop
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said by Shamayim  :"Though it's unlikely he'll see much of the money . . ." Whatever happened to the concept of if you don't pay up you go to jail? If that were the case, every single Enron exec would be behind bars right now. [Insert your favorite prison cliche here]
While it's great that this guy is getting the smackdown of justice, I don't think this going to slow spam down that much.  I definitely won't shed any tears seeing Soloway and his ilk cough up a lot of their ill-gotten dough.
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G_Poobah
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Laws don't apply to corporations in this country. Even if the 'corporation' is convicted of a crime, there's no loss of liberty associated with the crime, so why should they care about the law? Corporations can't be jailed, can't get the death penalty, can't loose liberties, but they are given almost all the rights of a citizen. That's the root cause of the problem with corporations in this country.
Corporations should have NO rights relative to an individual. Executives and shareholders and employees of corporations should suffer punishments worse than citizens if they are convicted of any crime. The loss of money is NOT EQUAL to the loss of liberty. That's a problem.
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itguy05
join:2005-06-17
Camp Hill, PA | reply to Shamayim
quote:
Whatever happened to the concept of if you don't pay up you go to jail?
It's not the 1700's.
How are you supposed to repay the debt from jail where you are not working? |
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footballdude
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Imperial, MO
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said by G_Poobah :Laws don't apply to corporations in this country. Even if the 'corporation' is convicted of a crime, there's no loss of liberty associated with the crime, so why should they care about the law? Corporations can't be jailed, can't get the death penalty, can't loose liberties, but they are given almost all the rights of a citizen. That's the root cause of the problem with corporations in this country. Apparently you haven't read the Sarbaines-Oxley act of '03 (or maybe it was '02). Corporate misdeeds now equal jailtime for CEO. |
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JSRoman
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Ever hear of Arthur Anderson? You should ask those folks if laws applies to them. Loss of Liberty? Ask Dennis Kozloski,Mark Swartz or Ebbers how they like that liberty from jail cell they are in. Ken Lay next up for a 6 x 8 cell.
Try getting a corporate conviction in China. |
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KCB_PDX
World Gone Wild
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Here is a perfect example of how it is done. How can justice be served when criminals are given deals like this?
»www.wweek.com/story.php?story=5176
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mlundin
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said by itguy05 :It's not the 1700's. How are you supposed to repay the debt from jail where you are not working? You can get paid a couple dollars a day in jail for doing things like cooking and laundry. It may take the rest of his life to pay off the debt, but that doesn't really bother me. |
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WyoNative
join:2005-01-31
Enfield, CT | reply to JSRoman
What jail cell?? Though sentenced, AFAIK, they are appealing their convictions and it's anyones guess when/if they will ever see a jail cell... |
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smcallah
join:2004-08-05
Home | reply to mlundin
In some states the money you make doing work in prison is used to pay for your "rent" and food when you get out.
So you don't get any of that money. |
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xpkranger
RIP Georgia Theater
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This is a civil case, not a criminal case as I understand it even though I didn't RTFA. You don't go to jail when you lose a civil case. Just ask O.J. Simpson.
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wtansill
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Falls Church, VA
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said by itguy05 : quote:
Whatever happened to the concept of if you don't pay up you go to jail?
It's not the 1700's. How are you supposed to repay the debt from jail where you are not working? License plate manufacturing... 
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oliphant
I Have 8 Boobies
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Corona, CA | reply to Shamayim
You used to is the 'old' days, it was called debtor prison. |
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nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
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said by G_Poobah :Corporations should have NO rights relative to an individual. Executives and shareholders and employees of corporations should suffer punishments worse than citizens if they are convicted of any crime. The loss of money is NOT EQUAL to the loss of liberty. That's a problem. Wow. That's enlightened.
So, if your parents' 401(k) holds stock in such a criminal company, your parents should go to jail? After all, they're shareholders. Shareholders should go to jail because they allowed themselves to get ripped off?
Some line worker in Wyoming should go to jail because their whoring, coking, embezzling CEO drove the company into the ground?
Interesting world-view.
-tom
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oOPayback
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