 itguy05
join:2005-06-17 Camp Hill, PA
| reply to Combat Chuck Re: Greedy music industry
quote: **cough cough ipodanditsnonreplacablebattery cough cough**
Hardly. I think you need to get a clue: »www.ipodbatterydepot.com/index.a···s-ad-3.5 »www.batteryship.com/htmlos/htmlo···googmp79 »www.ipodbattery.com/ »www.ipodbatteryfaq.com
Yeah, nonreplaceable.
Nice try, though. |
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  AthlGrond Premium,MVM join:2002-04-25 Aurora, CO
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| Surely you remember that Apple didn't initially offer battery replacements?
»www.ipodsdirtysecret.com/
Yeah, I thought so. -- You are now free to paint your hair wild colors and run around naked. -dg2 |
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  Fronkman Macs Do It Better Premium join:2003-06-23 Columbus, OH
| said by AthlGrond :Surely you remember that Apple didn't initially offer battery replacements? » www.ipodsdirtysecret.com/Yeah, I thought so. you know, im tired of reading shit like this. apple was not frickin obligated to offer you a battery replacement!
NOWHERE in their marketing did they claim that the battery was replaceable nor did they claim it would last for years. the ipod has a LiIon battery, batteries which are well known to have a finite number of charge cycles. every laptop computer, palm pilot, etc has the exact same issue. aditionally apple does NOT have to provide you with the parts or capability to replace the batteries. does GE provide with the parts to replace the filament when your light bulb burns out? are they terrible for not doing so?
NO one is forcing you to BUY the ipod, NO one is forcing you to LIKE the ipod, NO one is even forcing you to THINK about the ipod but it is not productive for you to continue to rehash old and invalid arguments. you have contributed nothing new to the collective intelligence of BBR.
try posting again when you have something original to say. -- Everyone should own a G4 cube or an iBook or the Mac mini! |
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 rdiedrich Premium join:2002-11-25 Mchenry, IL clubs: | last I knew GE sold lightbulbs that come with new filaments. |
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 AquaBlaze Premium join:2004-02-02 Encino, CA
| reply to Fronkman *laughs* I love the Mac fanatics. You point out that, yes, the product isn't perfect, and they throw questionable 3rd party solution/workarounds to the matter...like hobbling along w/ duct tape is what makes a product superior.
Point that out further, especially having the compnay being on record as either ignorant and/or greedy, and then you get a big steaming load of STFU FLAMER!
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 k_mumm
join:2001-06-14 Laramie, WY
| reply to Fronkman No one is forcing you to defend the IPOD. Check out this class action suit they settled over batteries. »www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/06/···24.shtml |
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  AthlGrond Premium,MVM join:2002-04-25 Aurora, CO
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| reply to Fronkman said by Fronkman :you know, im tired of reading shit like this. apple was not frickin obligated to offer you a battery replacement! NOWHERE in their marketing did they claim that the battery was replaceable nor did they claim it would last for years. the ipod has a LiIon battery, batteries which are well known to have a finite number of charge cycles. every laptop computer, palm pilot, etc has the exact same issue. aditionally apple does NOT have to provide you with the parts or capability to replace the batteries. does GE provide with the parts to replace the filament when your light bulb burns out? are they terrible for not doing so? NO one is forcing you to BUY the ipod, NO one is forcing you to LIKE the ipod, NO one is even forcing you to THINK about the ipod but it is not productive for you to continue to rehash old and invalid arguments. you have contributed nothing new to the collective intelligence of BBR. try posting again when you have something original to say. Time to take a deep breath.
You OK now? Good.
Now if you recall there wasn't any talk from Apple when the iPod first came out about the battery not being replaceable. None. It wasn't something that people were concerned with since most high end equipment is serviceable by the manufacturer. Why would anyone think Apple would not service their own equipment?
Perhaps originally it was an oversight that they didn't have a plan to offer replacements.
You have to admit that it was real funny that they would recommend that you just buy a new iPod. Did it make them look greedy? You bet!
So why you are so defensive of this? Personally I find it funny. Why not join me in having a good chuckle at Apple's expense? Go on it's fun! 
Oh and by the way I bought an iPod after they started a battery replacement program, so I'm not holding their greed (or was it initial incompetence?) against them. -- You are now free to paint your hair wild colors and run around naked. -dg2 |
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  Transmaster Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20 Cheyenne, WY
| The thing that infuriated people was when their battery pack cycled out they would call apple to see about getting a new battery installed and they where told to go purchase another Ipod.
Creative HD players have easily replaceable batteries, and battery packs that snap on the back on these players to increase their play time. Not only that they are cheaper.
Now I like Ipods I like how they work. The new Ipod Nano is intriguing but again you can see they are not designed for battery replacement. -- Low voltage Tech's are wimps, Real tech's use 45 pound filament transformers, plate voltages no less then 2400 volts with at least 10 amp's lighting 8877 triodes...BPL I'm coming to get you. |
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  macsukz
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| reply to Fronkman calm down mac kiddies.....i know the thought of ipod losing popularity frightens you...once ipod loses its edge(always has been crap anyways..korea/japan had better long before..wonder why ipod doesnt sell much there?.......once ipod is gone so is apple as a whole.....in the end its a nice looking shite battery mp3 player...that tries to charge you for every little feature and option possible....greed....and has it worked?...how many ipods have you mac kiddies bought?....youre on your 4th? 5th? in 2 years? LOL they could have given you a better battery at launch...but then they wouldnt sell their "service package" which the mac rep admitted to me at compusa was a joke.....since everyone would have to buy it...or pay more when their battery dies.....and your battery WILL die or not perform up to par....this place is such a mac kiddie one button mouse idiot club...enjoy your glorified email machines...and oh yah...now a mp3 portal..lol pathetic...come up with some real excuses and reasons for mac being better...this is a joke |
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 yabos
join:2003-02-16 Ingersoll, ON | reply to AthlGrond If you expect the battery to last forever there's something wrong with you. |
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 yabos
join:2003-02-16 Ingersoll, ON | reply to rdiedrich And Apple sells iPods that come with new batteries |
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| reply to yabos said by yabos :If you expect the battery to last forever there's something wrong with you. The problem wasn't the users expecting the battery to last forever, but there was no contingency plan for such from Apple...other than "buy a new one". In high-end consumer electronics, telling your customers to repurchase a product in order to correct a consumable commodity...either shows a lack in planning, or extreme greed. |
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| reply to macsukz said by macsukz :
once ipod is gone so is apple as a whole. Bah, Apple still has their computer division, and there will always be the supply of people who still want to have dictated what they can and can't do with their machine. |
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 itguy05
join:2005-06-17 Camp Hill, PA | reply to AthlGrond quote: Surely you remember that Apple didn't initially offer battery replacements?
So? Plenty of other 3rd parties were offering the batteries, instructions, and service before Apple. |
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 AquaBlaze Premium join:2004-02-02 Encino, CA
| said by itguy05 :So? Plenty of other 3rd parties were offering the batteries, instructions, and service before Apple. *laughs* So you can have a whole 'nother host of problems to jump through? Please. they either should've been powered via alkaline, or some $0.10 plastic battery case. Knowing batteries, it's pretty obvious that it was a consumable, and would need replacing at some date. Wether not having a battery replacement service was a mistake, or a planned obsolecense time is a different matter. |
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 itguy05
join:2005-06-17 Camp Hill, PA
| reply to AquaBlaze quote: *laughs* I love the Mac fanatics. You point out that, yes, the product isn't perfect, and they throw questionable 3rd party solution/workarounds to the matter...like hobbling along w/ duct tape is what makes a product superior.
Questionable 3rd parties? Most of those are reputable companies. There are others that will take your iPod, replace the battery and send it back to you. How is this duct tape, etc? You get your iPod in the same condition you sent it in, a new battery.
And don't get me started on the junk Windows users need to keep their systems running well (virus scanners, ad-ware busters, spyware defenses, etc). Those are more duct tape than an iPod battery replacement.
quote: Point that out further, especially having the compnay being on record as either ignorant and/or greedy, and then you get a big steaming load of STFU FLAMER!
Probably ignorant. But it's no different than me taking my 3 year old Explorer back to Ford and demanding new brakes, tires, and a battery because they all wore out.
It's just common sense, something sorely lacking in America these days. Everyone as the "it's someone else's fault" mentality these days. No personal responsibility at all. |
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  ifarrell
join:2000-08-10 Willow Spring, NC
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| reply to AthlGrond said by AthlGrond :Surely you remember that Apple didn't initially offer battery replacements? » www.ipodsdirtysecret.com/Yeah, I thought so. Man that is so yesterdays news. Get a life. |
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  Juke Box Free From Marketing Premium join:2001-01-29 Bar & Grill
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| reply to itguy05 Yeah you too. Looks like you could get batteries from any other of these Links. -- Do you listen to Tangerine Dream? |
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  joeb3
@centurytel.net | reply to macsukz A friend of mine has 1st generation ipod, and I know several people with 2nd generation iPods, and all seem to be working fine.
Just how old are YOU anyway? |
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  Combat Chuck Too Many Cannibals Premium join:2001-11-29 Erie, PA
| reply to itguy05 said by itguy05 :Questionable 3rd parties? Most of those are reputable companies. There are others that will take your iPod, replace the battery and send it back to you. How is this duct tape, etc? You get your iPod in the same condition you sent it in, a new battery. Hows about we just jump on this new technology called "the battery compartment" and make it so I can go to Radio Shack and replace mine own damn battery without having to pry the back off with a butter-knife mmm-k. I'm mean it's not as if 99.999919% of all other portable electronics have accessible batteries. (and no that isn't a challenge to you to find one that doesn't and post it here cause: a: I'm sure there are others and b: It's still stupid) -- Pi Piru Piru Piru PiPiru Pi! |
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