Cod
join:2000-07-05
Greensboro, NC
| reply to pike
Re: Greedy music industry
said by pike  :Hmm.. the pot calling the kettle black? -Mike What are you insinuating? |
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Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
Premium
join:2001-11-29
Erie, PA
| said by Cod :What are you insinuating? Certainly not that Jobs is himself fairly greedy. **cough cough ipodanditsnonreplacablebattery cough cough**
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itguy05
join:2005-06-17
Camp Hill, PA
| quote:
**cough cough ipodanditsnonreplacablebattery cough cough**
Hardly. I think you need to get a clue:
»www.ipodbatterydepot.com/index.a···s-ad-3.5
»www.batteryship.com/htmlos/htmlo···googmp79
»www.ipodbattery.com/
»www.ipodbatteryfaq.com
Yeah, nonreplaceable.
Nice try, though. |
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AthlGrond
Premium,MVM
join:2002-04-25
Aurora, CO
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| Surely you remember that Apple didn't initially offer battery replacements?
»www.ipodsdirtysecret.com/
Yeah, I thought so.
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joako
Premium
join:2000-09-07
Gainesville, FL
| reply to Combat Chuck
said by Combat Chuck :said by Cod :What are you insinuating? Certainly not that Jobs is himself fairly greedy. **cough cough ipodanditsnonreplacablebattery cough cough** Except that after consumer demand, Apple started to offer a low cost battery replacement program. After consumer demand the RIAA and record labels have not really caved into anything, infact they sue their customers, something that Apple does much less.
If I had to pick one, I'd pick Apple.
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Fronkman
Macs Do It Better
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join:2003-06-23
Columbus, OH
| reply to AthlGrond
said by AthlGrond :Surely you remember that Apple didn't initially offer battery replacements? » www.ipodsdirtysecret.com/Yeah, I thought so. you know, im tired of reading shit like this. apple was not frickin obligated to offer you a battery replacement!
NOWHERE in their marketing did they claim that the battery was replaceable nor did they claim it would last for years. the ipod has a LiIon battery, batteries which are well known to have a finite number of charge cycles. every laptop computer, palm pilot, etc has the exact same issue. aditionally apple does NOT have to provide you with the parts or capability to replace the batteries. does GE provide with the parts to replace the filament when your light bulb burns out? are they terrible for not doing so?
NO one is forcing you to BUY the ipod, NO one is forcing you to LIKE the ipod, NO one is even forcing you to THINK about the ipod but it is not productive for you to continue to rehash old and invalid arguments. you have contributed nothing new to the collective intelligence of BBR.
try posting again when you have something original to say.
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rdiedrich
Premium
join:2002-11-25
Mchenry, IL
clubs: | last I knew GE sold lightbulbs that come with new filaments. |
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AquaBlaze
Premium
join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA
| reply to Fronkman
*laughs* I love the Mac fanatics. You point out that, yes, the product isn't perfect, and they throw questionable 3rd party solution/workarounds to the matter...like hobbling along w/ duct tape is what makes a product superior.
Point that out further, especially having the compnay being on record as either ignorant and/or greedy, and then you get a big steaming load of STFU FLAMER!
Enjoy the kool-aid folks.  |
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k_mumm
join:2001-06-14
Laramie, WY
| reply to Fronkman
No one is forcing you to defend the IPOD. Check out this class action suit they settled over batteries. »www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/06/···24.shtml |
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AthlGrond
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join:2002-04-25
Aurora, CO
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September 20th, @05:25PM
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said by Fronkman :you know, im tired of reading shit like this. apple was not frickin obligated to offer you a battery replacement! NOWHERE in their marketing did they claim that the battery was replaceable nor did they claim it would last for years. the ipod has a LiIon battery, batteries which are well known to have a finite number of charge cycles. every laptop computer, palm pilot, etc has the exact same issue. aditionally apple does NOT have to provide you with the parts or capability to replace the batteries. does GE provide with the parts to replace the filament when your light bulb burns out? are they terrible for not doing so? NO one is forcing you to BUY the ipod, NO one is forcing you to LIKE the ipod, NO one is even forcing you to THINK about the ipod but it is not productive for you to continue to rehash old and invalid arguments. you have contributed nothing new to the collective intelligence of BBR. try posting again when you have something original to say. Time to take a deep breath.
You OK now? Good.
Now if you recall there wasn't any talk from Apple when the iPod first came out about the battery not being replaceable. None. It wasn't something that people were concerned with since most high end equipment is serviceable by the manufacturer. Why would anyone think Apple would not service their own equipment?
Perhaps originally it was an oversight that they didn't have a plan to offer replacements.
You have to admit that it was real funny that they would recommend that you just buy a new iPod. Did it make them look greedy? You bet!
So why you are so defensive of this? Personally I find it funny. Why not join me in having a good chuckle at Apple's expense? Go on it's fun! 
Oh and by the way I bought an iPod after they started a battery replacement program, so I'm not holding their greed (or was it initial incompetence?) against them.
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AquaBlaze
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join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA
| reply to joako
said by joako :After consumer demand the RIAA and record labels have not really caved into anything, infact they sue their customers, something that Apple does much less. That's up for debate...
I personally like the recent lawsuits in which Apple started suing Mac fan sites for "leaking" information that Apple officers had no problems leaking to them. |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
| reply to AthlGrond
The thing that infuriated people was when their battery pack cycled out they would call apple to see about getting a new battery installed and they where told to go purchase another Ipod.
Creative HD players have easily replaceable batteries, and battery packs that snap on the back on these players to increase their play time. Not only that they are cheaper.
Now I like Ipods I like how they work. The new Ipod Nano is intriguing but again you can see they are not designed for battery replacement.
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macsukz
@speakeasy.n
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calm down mac kiddies.....i know the thought of ipod losing popularity frightens you...once ipod loses its edge(always has been crap anyways..korea/japan had better long before..wonder why ipod doesnt sell much there?.......once ipod is gone so is apple as a whole.....in the end its a nice looking shite battery mp3 player...that tries to charge you for every little feature and option possible....greed....and has it worked?...how many ipods have you mac kiddies bought?....youre on your 4th? 5th? in 2 years? LOL they could have given you a better battery at launch...but then they wouldnt sell their "service package" which the mac rep admitted to me at compusa was a joke.....since everyone would have to buy it...or pay more when their battery dies.....and your battery WILL die or not perform up to par....this place is such a mac kiddie one button mouse idiot club...enjoy your glorified email machines...and oh yah...now a mp3 portal..lol pathetic...come up with some real excuses and reasons for mac being better...this is a joke |
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yabos
join:2003-02-16
Ingersoll, ON | reply to AthlGrond
If you expect the battery to last forever there's something wrong with you. |
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yabos
join:2003-02-16
Ingersoll, ON | reply to rdiedrich
And Apple sells iPods that come with new batteries |
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AquaBlaze
Premium
join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA
| reply to yabos
said by yabos :If you expect the battery to last forever there's something wrong with you. The problem wasn't the users expecting the battery to last forever, but there was no contingency plan for such from Apple...other than "buy a new one". In high-end consumer electronics, telling your customers to repurchase a product in order to correct a consumable commodity...either shows a lack in planning, or extreme greed. |
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AquaBlaze
Premium
join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA
| reply to macsukz
said by macsukz :
once ipod is gone so is apple as a whole. Bah, Apple still has their computer division, and there will always be the supply of people who still want to have dictated what they can and can't do with their machine. |
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itguy05
join:2005-06-17
Camp Hill, PA | reply to AthlGrond
quote:
Surely you remember that Apple didn't initially offer battery replacements?
So? Plenty of other 3rd parties were offering the batteries, instructions, and service before Apple. |
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AquaBlaze
Premium
join:2004-02-02
Encino, CA
| said by itguy05 :So? Plenty of other 3rd parties were offering the batteries, instructions, and service before Apple. *laughs* So you can have a whole 'nother host of problems to jump through? Please. they either should've been powered via alkaline, or some $0.10 plastic battery case. Knowing batteries, it's pretty obvious that it was a consumable, and would need replacing at some date. Wether not having a battery replacement service was a mistake, or a planned obsolecense time is a different matter. |
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itguy05
join:2005-06-17
Camp Hill, PA
| reply to AquaBlaze
quote:
*laughs* I love the Mac fanatics. You point out that, yes, the product isn't perfect, and they throw questionable 3rd party solution/workarounds to the matter...like hobbling along w/ duct tape is what makes a product superior.
Questionable 3rd parties? Most of those are reputable companies. There are others that will take your iPod, replace the battery and send it back to you. How is this duct tape, etc? You get your iPod in the same condition you sent it in, a new battery.
And don't get me started on the junk Windows users need to keep their systems running well (virus scanners, ad-ware busters, spyware defenses, etc). Those are more duct tape than an iPod battery replacement.
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Point that out further, especially having the compnay being on record as either ignorant and/or greedy, and then you get a big steaming load of STFU FLAMER!
Probably ignorant. But it's no different than me taking my 3 year old Explorer back to Ford and demanding new brakes, tires, and a battery because they all wore out.
It's just common sense, something sorely lacking in America these days. Everyone as the "it's someone else's fault" mentality these days. No personal responsibility at all. |
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