pike
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Re: Greedy music industry
Hmm.. the pot calling the kettle black?
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Cod
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| said by pike  :Hmm.. the pot calling the kettle black? -Mike What are you insinuating? |
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TKJunkMail
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said by pike :Hmm.. the pot calling the kettle black? -Mike Yes, the question is will Jobs stick with his decision if the industry refuses to renew contracts with Itunes unless they raise rates. Itunes without music titles will go down the tubes. I hope Jobs wins, but he may have to give in if he wants Itunes to stay in business.
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Combat Chuck
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said by Cod :What are you insinuating? Certainly not that Jobs is himself fairly greedy. **cough cough ipodanditsnonreplacablebattery cough cough**
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AtomicZero
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You always ask the good questions |
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itguy05
join:2005-06-17
Camp Hill, PA
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quote:
**cough cough ipodanditsnonreplacablebattery cough cough**
Hardly. I think you need to get a clue:
»www.ipodbatterydepot.com/index.a···s-ad-3.5
»www.batteryship.com/htmlos/htmlo···googmp79
»www.ipodbattery.com/
»www.ipodbatteryfaq.com
Yeah, nonreplaceable.
Nice try, though. |
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AthlGrond
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| Surely you remember that Apple didn't initially offer battery replacements?
»www.ipodsdirtysecret.com/
Yeah, I thought so.
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SRFireside
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But now that Jobs has gotten the word out regarding the price hikes being non-essential the labels that pull that kind of crap will get a pretty nasty blackened public eye. So now it depends on whether or not the labels feel lucky. Well... do they, punk? |
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nixen
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said by TKJunkMail :said by pike :Hmm.. the pot calling the kettle black? -Mike Yes, the question is will Jobs stick with his decision if the industry refuses to renew contracts with Itunes unless they raise rates. Itunes without music titles will go down the tubes. I hope Jobs wins, but he may have to give in if he wants Itunes to stay in business. And, if he agrees to the price hikes and people revert to piracy, iTunes stays in business, how?
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joako
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said by Combat Chuck :said by Cod :What are you insinuating? Certainly not that Jobs is himself fairly greedy. **cough cough ipodanditsnonreplacablebattery cough cough** Except that after consumer demand, Apple started to offer a low cost battery replacement program. After consumer demand the RIAA and record labels have not really caved into anything, infact they sue their customers, something that Apple does much less.
If I had to pick one, I'd pick Apple.
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one_bored_si
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Jobs will cave in as soon as contracts are not renewed, what other choice will he have. He's just posturing for the time being so as to avoid looking like the bad guy when pricing does increase and it will. In the end he isn't the bad guy, lower prices mean better sales for iTomb.;) |
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Fronkman
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said by AthlGrond :Surely you remember that Apple didn't initially offer battery replacements? » www.ipodsdirtysecret.com/Yeah, I thought so. you know, im tired of reading shit like this. apple was not frickin obligated to offer you a battery replacement!
NOWHERE in their marketing did they claim that the battery was replaceable nor did they claim it would last for years. the ipod has a LiIon battery, batteries which are well known to have a finite number of charge cycles. every laptop computer, palm pilot, etc has the exact same issue. aditionally apple does NOT have to provide you with the parts or capability to replace the batteries. does GE provide with the parts to replace the filament when your light bulb burns out? are they terrible for not doing so?
NO one is forcing you to BUY the ipod, NO one is forcing you to LIKE the ipod, NO one is even forcing you to THINK about the ipod but it is not productive for you to continue to rehash old and invalid arguments. you have contributed nothing new to the collective intelligence of BBR.
try posting again when you have something original to say.
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rdiedrich
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Thaler
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*laughs* I love the Mac fanatics. You point out that, yes, the product isn't perfect, and they throw questionable 3rd party solution/workarounds to the matter...like hobbling along w/ duct tape is what makes a product superior.
Point that out further, especially having the compnay being on record as either ignorant and/or greedy, and then you get a big steaming load of STFU FLAMER!
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k_mumm
join:2001-06-14
Laramie, WY
| reply to Fronkman
No one is forcing you to defend the IPOD. Check out this class action suit they settled over batteries. »www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/06/···24.shtml |
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AthlGrond
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said by Fronkman :you know, im tired of reading shit like this. apple was not frickin obligated to offer you a battery replacement! NOWHERE in their marketing did they claim that the battery was replaceable nor did they claim it would last for years. the ipod has a LiIon battery, batteries which are well known to have a finite number of charge cycles. every laptop computer, palm pilot, etc has the exact same issue. aditionally apple does NOT have to provide you with the parts or capability to replace the batteries. does GE provide with the parts to replace the filament when your light bulb burns out? are they terrible for not doing so? NO one is forcing you to BUY the ipod, NO one is forcing you to LIKE the ipod, NO one is even forcing you to THINK about the ipod but it is not productive for you to continue to rehash old and invalid arguments. you have contributed nothing new to the collective intelligence of BBR. try posting again when you have something original to say. Time to take a deep breath.
You OK now? Good.
Now if you recall there wasn't any talk from Apple when the iPod first came out about the battery not being replaceable. None. It wasn't something that people were concerned with since most high end equipment is serviceable by the manufacturer. Why would anyone think Apple would not service their own equipment?
Perhaps originally it was an oversight that they didn't have a plan to offer replacements.
You have to admit that it was real funny that they would recommend that you just buy a new iPod. Did it make them look greedy? You bet!
So why you are so defensive of this? Personally I find it funny. Why not join me in having a good chuckle at Apple's expense? Go on it's fun! 
Oh and by the way I bought an iPod after they started a battery replacement program, so I'm not holding their greed (or was it initial incompetence?) against them.
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Thaler
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said by joako :After consumer demand the RIAA and record labels have not really caved into anything, infact they sue their customers, something that Apple does much less. That's up for debate...
I personally like the recent lawsuits in which Apple started suing Mac fan sites for "leaking" information that Apple officers had no problems leaking to them. |
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Transmaster
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The thing that infuriated people was when their battery pack cycled out they would call apple to see about getting a new battery installed and they where told to go purchase another Ipod.
Creative HD players have easily replaceable batteries, and battery packs that snap on the back on these players to increase their play time. Not only that they are cheaper.
Now I like Ipods I like how they work. The new Ipod Nano is intriguing but again you can see they are not designed for battery replacement.
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macsukz
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calm down mac kiddies.....i know the thought of ipod losing popularity frightens you...once ipod loses its edge(always has been crap anyways..korea/japan had better long before..wonder why ipod doesnt sell much there?.......once ipod is gone so is apple as a whole.....in the end its a nice looking shite battery mp3 player...that tries to charge you for every little feature and option possible....greed....and has it worked?...how many ipods have you mac kiddies bought?....youre on your 4th? 5th? in 2 years? LOL they could have given you a better battery at launch...but then they wouldnt sell their "service package" which the mac rep admitted to me at compusa was a joke.....since everyone would have to buy it...or pay more when their battery dies.....and your battery WILL die or not perform up to par....this place is such a mac kiddie one button mouse idiot club...enjoy your glorified email machines...and oh yah...now a mp3 portal..lol pathetic...come up with some real excuses and reasons for mac being better...this is a joke |
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yabos
join:2003-02-16
Ingersoll, ON | reply to AthlGrond
If you expect the battery to last forever there's something wrong with you. |
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