N3OGH
Will it all be Obama's fault now?
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Philly burbs | Greedy music industry
Steve Jobs has given his answer to what he's called the "greedy" music industry"
The music industry greedy?
Naaaa..... |
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pike
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Cleveland, OH
clubs: | Hmm.. the pot calling the kettle black?
-Mike |
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Viggen93
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Hamilton, ON | reply to N3OGH
Problem is, when you factor in all the restriction of DRM'ed downloads, the consumer loses. Not that ITMS or the RIAA see any problem in that.
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Cod
join:2000-07-05
Greensboro, NC
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said by pike  :Hmm.. the pot calling the kettle black? -Mike What are you insinuating? |
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TK Junk Mail
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said by pike :Hmm.. the pot calling the kettle black? -Mike Yes, the question is will Jobs stick with his decision if the industry refuses to renew contracts with Itunes unless they raise rates. Itunes without music titles will go down the tubes. I hope Jobs wins, but he may have to give in if he wants Itunes to stay in business.
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packetscan
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Bridgeport, CT
clubs: | reply to Viggen93
I buy my music on iTunes and then use p2p applications to acquire NON DRM'd files.
I have 3 different mp3 players.
I wish they didn't have DRM in the first place. |
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Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
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said by Cod :What are you insinuating? Certainly not that Jobs is himself fairly greedy. **cough cough ipodanditsnonreplacablebattery cough cough**
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AtomicZero
join:2004-11-24
West Palm Beach, FL | reply to TK Junk Mail
You always ask the good questions |
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itguy05
join:2005-06-17
Camp Hill, PA
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quote:
**cough cough ipodanditsnonreplacablebattery cough cough**
Hardly. I think you need to get a clue:
»www.ipodbatterydepot.com/index.a···s-ad-3.5
»www.batteryship.com/htmlos/htmlo···googmp79
»www.ipodbattery.com/
»www.ipodbatteryfaq.com
Yeah, nonreplaceable.
Nice try, though. |
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Doctor Four
My other vehicle is a TARDIS
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join:2000-09-05
Dallas, TX | reply to Viggen93
There's a simple answer for iTunes DRM: jHymn. I've
used it to rip the protected files to wave and then
convert them to mp3. |
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AthlGrond
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Surely you remember that Apple didn't initially offer battery replacements?
»www.ipodsdirtysecret.com/
Yeah, I thought so.
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SRFireside
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Houston, TX
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But now that Jobs has gotten the word out regarding the price hikes being non-essential the labels that pull that kind of crap will get a pretty nasty blackened public eye. So now it depends on whether or not the labels feel lucky. Well... do they, punk? |
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nixen
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said by TK Junk Mail :said by pike :Hmm.. the pot calling the kettle black? -Mike Yes, the question is will Jobs stick with his decision if the industry refuses to renew contracts with Itunes unless they raise rates. Itunes without music titles will go down the tubes. I hope Jobs wins, but he may have to give in if he wants Itunes to stay in business. And, if he agrees to the price hikes and people revert to piracy, iTunes stays in business, how?
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joako
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Gainesville, FL
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said by Combat Chuck :said by Cod :What are you insinuating? Certainly not that Jobs is himself fairly greedy. **cough cough ipodanditsnonreplacablebattery cough cough** Except that after consumer demand, Apple started to offer a low cost battery replacement program. After consumer demand the RIAA and record labels have not really caved into anything, infact they sue their customers, something that Apple does much less.
If I had to pick one, I'd pick Apple.
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one_bored_si
join:2003-03-10
Montebello, CA
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Jobs will cave in as soon as contracts are not renewed, what other choice will he have. He's just posturing for the time being so as to avoid looking like the bad guy when pricing does increase and it will. In the end he isn't the bad guy, lower prices mean better sales for iTomb.;) |
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Fronkman
Macs Do It Better
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join:2003-06-23
Columbus, OH
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said by AthlGrond :Surely you remember that Apple didn't initially offer battery replacements? » www.ipodsdirtysecret.com/Yeah, I thought so. you know, im tired of reading shit like this. apple was not frickin obligated to offer you a battery replacement!
NOWHERE in their marketing did they claim that the battery was replaceable nor did they claim it would last for years. the ipod has a LiIon battery, batteries which are well known to have a finite number of charge cycles. every laptop computer, palm pilot, etc has the exact same issue. aditionally apple does NOT have to provide you with the parts or capability to replace the batteries. does GE provide with the parts to replace the filament when your light bulb burns out? are they terrible for not doing so?
NO one is forcing you to BUY the ipod, NO one is forcing you to LIKE the ipod, NO one is even forcing you to THINK about the ipod but it is not productive for you to continue to rehash old and invalid arguments. you have contributed nothing new to the collective intelligence of BBR.
try posting again when you have something original to say.
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rdiedrich
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clubs: | last I knew GE sold lightbulbs that come with new filaments. |
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AquaBlaze
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Encino, CA
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*laughs* I love the Mac fanatics. You point out that, yes, the product isn't perfect, and they throw questionable 3rd party solution/workarounds to the matter...like hobbling along w/ duct tape is what makes a product superior.
Point that out further, especially having the compnay being on record as either ignorant and/or greedy, and then you get a big steaming load of STFU FLAMER!
Enjoy the kool-aid folks.  |
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k_mumm
join:2001-06-14
Laramie, WY
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No one is forcing you to defend the IPOD. Check out this class action suit they settled over batteries. »www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/06/···24.shtml |
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AthlGrond
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September 20th, @05:25PM
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said by Fronkman :you know, im tired of reading shit like this. apple was not frickin obligated to offer you a battery replacement! NOWHERE in their marketing did they claim that the battery was replaceable nor did they claim it would last for years. the ipod has a LiIon battery, batteries which are well known to have a finite number of charge cycles. every laptop computer, palm pilot, etc has the exact same issue. aditionally apple does NOT have to provide you with the parts or capability to replace the batteries. does GE provide with the parts to replace the filament when your light bulb burns out? are they terrible for not doing so? NO one is forcing you to BUY the ipod, NO one is forcing you to LIKE the ipod, NO one is even forcing you to THINK about the ipod but it is not productive for you to continue to rehash old and invalid arguments. you have contributed nothing new to the collective intelligence of BBR. try posting again when you have something original to say. Time to take a deep breath.
You OK now? Good.
Now if you recall there wasn't any talk from Apple when the iPod first came out about the battery not being replaceable. None. It wasn't something that people were concerned with since most high end equipment is serviceable by the manufacturer. Why would anyone think Apple would not service their own equipment?
Perhaps originally it was an oversight that they didn't have a plan to offer replacements.
You have to admit that it was real funny that they would recommend that you just buy a new iPod. Did it make them look greedy? You bet!
So why you are so defensive of this? Personally I find it funny. Why not join me in having a good chuckle at Apple's expense? Go on it's fun! 
Oh and by the way I bought an iPod after they started a battery replacement program, so I'm not holding their greed (or was it initial incompetence?) against them.
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