LilYoda
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Mountains | I see a lot of use for this
In corporate networks
But for home ISPs? I don't think so! |
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DonLibes
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| said by LilYoda  :In corporate networks Why would corporate networks want to block Skype? The corporate network where I work charges us for bandwidth. (They could care less what the bandwidth is used for as long as someone pays for it.) Actually, they don't charge us yet - but that's what they've announced as their ultimate goal. |
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LilYoda
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| When employees start firing up skype and calling their buddies, they eat up the corporate bandwidth... If it affects other employees that are trying to use the internet for legit business purposes, or it reduces the amount of bandwidth available let's say for the corporate website, then you have a problem.
Billing it to the end user (the employee for example) isn't a solution, because you still have a bandwidth shortage. And you can't upgrade your bandwidth since you don't know if next month your users are going to use skype. If they aren't you end up with more bandwidth than you need (which isn't too bad) and a bill higher than you planned to pay (which is baaaaaaaaad) |
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DonLibes
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| I suspect Skype usage will be pretty smooth compared to non-Skype internet traffic which is much more erratic. Andway, when half the employees start downloading the latest Windows megapatch or new versions of Linux, watch out. By comparison, VoIP takes very little bandwidth. |
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oktiri
join:2003-01-05
Montreal, QC | reply to LilYoda
you sound like the most anal retentive person my eyes had ever the "pleasure" of reading |
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knightmb
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Franklin, TN
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Another Famous Screenshot
Real Time Usage and Transfer Rates |
Basically, Skype while in call uses about the same bandwidth as your 40 kilobit connection via a 56K analog modem (not even close to a full 56K connect speed). How can they say this affects their network? If their network is so bad that it can't handle data transfer at less than a crappy 40 k/bs connection, it's greed that would hurt VoIP technology and Skype, not bandwidth. Trying to limit Skype for business reasons, I can agree with if you don't want employees to use it. But trying to limit a residential broadband user because it "uses too much bandwidth" is pure and utter Bull*hit!!
I hope this screen shot one gets posted around in the future as well. |
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atangel
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Bronx, NY | reply to LilYoda
Re: I see a lot of use for this
Costing them (the ISPs) money!??? I pay for the bandwidth. How MUCH of it I use (within contract) is my business! |
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LilYoda
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Mountains | reply to oktiri
It's been a pleasure for me too.
L |
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LilYoda
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If you read my original post I referred to using this in corporate networks. Meaning a network for a company that subscribes to an ISP and pays for a fixed bandwidth.
Usually, they are charged an arm and leg by the ISP, and therefore don't like the idea of their employees getting a free phone ride on the corporate internet access. |
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DonLibes
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| said by LilYoda :If you read my original post I referred to using this in corporate networks. Meaning a network for a company that subscribes to an ISP and pays for a fixed bandwidth. Usually, they are charged an arm and leg by the ISP, and therefore don't like the idea of their employees getting a free phone ride on the corporate internet access. You think phone calls are free? The phone company charges our company for every phone call, even local ones. I suspect that moving our phone traffic over to VoIP would lower our total costs. |
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LilYoda
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said by DonLibes :Andway, when half the employees start downloading the latest Windows megapatch or new versions of Linux, watch out. By comparison, VoIP takes very little bandwidth. ¨
Yes and no.
Yes it takes a lot less bandwidth if everyone downloads the patches, etc... However most companies put a transparent proxy between the employees and the net. So windows update things, etc... hopefully get cached and downloaded once only. If the company has a small pipe, a lot of employees and no cache engine, well they deserve to get clobbered with a nightstick 
Anyway, I don't really know why, but I know that a lot of corporations nowadays are trying to block P2P, IM and VoIP apps from inside the company to the outside. My guess is bandwidth usage, cause that's where my job is at, but there could be other things in play (maybe legal implications for the company if an employee shares corpyrighted files?) |
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JerryTongue
join:2003-04-01
Auburn, WA | reply to DonLibes
I've been using skype for a few years and I like it.It only uses bandwidth while you speak. When you stop talking bandwidth stops. They are afraid people will realize how much we are getting ripped off on our phone bills is why. |
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