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2 edits |  All part of moving to all digital; no stopping it
Comcast has a plan to move its whole network to all digital channels and this is just part of what is yet to come. People can complain and yell and shout, but the days of analog channels with no STB or Cablecard are quickly drawing to a close. If they complain loud enough they may get reprieves for short periods of time, but ultimately Comcast will get what it wants - all digital, all the time.
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Miami, FL | Just because they move to all digital doesn't mean they have to take it out of the expanded basic tier. That's what the DCT-700s are for |
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1 edit | said by Zoder  :Just because they move to all digital doesn't mean they have to take it out of the expanded basic tier. That's what the DCT-700s are for You are right, but they also want people to move off of basic cable where they don't make any money and into the expanded tiers where they do. So they will tie one plan with the other.
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Re: All part of moving to all digital; no stopping
"No stopping it". That's got to be the worst attitude ever. If we all lived by that credo, we'd still be a british colony, since there was no stopping "taxation without representation". Bottom line is that comcasts exists at the WHIM of the people. The people of your town, city, county, whatever have signed a deal to graciously allow comcast to service your area. The correct response is to show up at your local town meeting, and raise hell. If comcast decides that it can unilaterally remove services, well that's their business. However I would argue that it's not in the towns best economic interest to allow that to happen, so the town should begin proceedings to sieze the cable via eminent domain and make it municipal cable, and let anyone use those cables to provide TV access. Guess what, the pendulum swings BOTH ways comcast, and it should come back and bite your greed.
If you take the time to read the link, you can see that comcast is lying (it's easy to tell when they are lying, because it only happens when they open their mouths). I love the phrase about "repositioning it's bandwidth". hahaha.. or an even better lie is "grouping the channels", or the classic lie of "why is it better for customers? well, it's less tha 50 cents a day. umm, dumb*ss comcast liar, that wasn't answering the question".
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| said by G_Poobah :"No stopping it". That's got to be the worst attitude ever. If we all lived by that credo, we'd still be a british colony, since there was no stopping "taxation without representation". Bottom line is that comcasts exists at the WHIM of the people. 90% of the customers don't give a damn and even those that do won't get ambitious enough to do anything about it. And Comcast knows those facts better than anyone. If they thought this would really cost them money they wouldn't do it. But, knowing their customers better than you do, they will move forward with their plans.
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Re: All part of moving to all digital; no stopping it
That's fine but give them a digital box for free and let them get the channels they were paying for or reduce their fee. What this amounts to is a fee increase.
We need fiber. We need to rip the Comcast business model a new ********. Bunch of lazy ass sitting on a corner collecting a paycheck idiots creating a triple your profit company on stunts just like this all around the country.
Demonstration of just about the worst Corporate ethics available. THIS is the company that runs ads saying they care about the community. You know why they run those ads? So they can try to cover up crud like this.
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said by TKJunkMail :...they also want people to move off of basic cable where they don't make any money... LOL.. That's pretty funny.. Not making money.. Heh.. |
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| said by ddurant :said by TKJunkMail :...they also want people to move off of basic cable where they don't make any money... LOL.. That's pretty funny.. Not making money.. Heh.. They don't make money if the customer only has basic. The basic only rates are regulated in most of Comcast's footprint and average about $10/customer. No company with the infrastructure costs that cable has can make a profit on a $10/mo customer.
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Re: All part of moving to all digital; no stopping
said by TKJunkMail :You are right, but they also want people to move off of basic cable where they don't make any money and into the expanded tiers where they do. So they will tie one plan with the other. Just a little perspective; I don't think I've ever seen TBS (nor Discovery since around the time they existed as the History Channel, Tech TV, and Animal Planet all rolled into one) in any cable basic tier.
The "Upgrade" letter was a dumb idea.
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| said by Combat Chuck :The "Upgrade" letter was a dumb idea. No doubt about that. They should have just sent out a letter with the monthly bill saying channel changes are being made. Calling it an upgrade was probably the idea of some idiot marketing type who should be promptly fired.
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Re: All part of moving to all digital; no stopping it
“What kind of idiot marketing department sends out a ‘Great news!’ and ‘upgrade’ and ‘at no additional charge to you!’ announcement for a decrease in service?”
Uhhh... that would be Comcast. |
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I believe the correct term for this kind of ADVERTISING is called a:
eu•phe•mism \"yu-fe-'mi-zem\ n [Gk euphemismos, fr. euphemos auspicious, sounding good, fr. eu- good + pheme speech] : the substitution of a mild or pleasant expression for one offensive or unpleasant; also : the expression substituted — eu•phe•mis•tic \'yu-fe-"mis-tik\ adj
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A fallacy of logic used to confuse rather than to prove the argument. My neighbors in Longmont have been duped by a slick talking advertising department. It's not just Comcast, everyone from lawyers and politicians to shady car salesman use it. |
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| said by Maarvin :A fallacy of logic used to confuse rather than to prove the argument. My neighbors in Longmont have been duped by a slick talking advertising department. It's not just Comcast, everyone from lawyers and politicians to shady car salesman use it. Actually, when a euphemism is used in this fashion (in order
to mislead or deceive) it is known as doublespeak. It is
language that doesn't communicate.
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said by Combat Chuck :Just a little perspective; I don't think I've ever seen TBS (nor Discovery since around the time they existed as the History Channel, Tech TV, and Animal Planet all rolled into one) in any cable basic tier. The "Upgrade" letter was a dumb idea. Actually I have TBS, Discovery Channel, History Channel, Disney Channel, Animal Planet, AMC, Sci-Fi Channel and others. All on basic cable over here. I consider it a bit restrictive on the cable operator's part to restrict certain popular channels to just digital cable when they have been previously offered without it. |
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Maybe so but read this
THis is what a comcast tech support person was able to tell me;
Comcast has made changes to channel line-ups to comply with our agreements with certain networks, to enhance the signal quality of these channels. We believe that Digital Cable is undoubtedly the future and it's capabilities will allow us to better serve our customers with reliable, diverse and exciting programming (particularly through the expansion of ON DEMAND and HDTV) to keep you in touch with what matters most to you. But we do not forsee doing away with our analog service. |
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Re: All part of moving to all digital; no stopping it
Basic costs $29-39 in this area. |
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3 edits | said by ctceo :Basic costs $29-39 in this area. That is high. It is $9.38/mo in my area for these channels:
2 Local/Community Access
3 KYW 3 (CBS, Phila.)*
4 WNJS 23 (PBS)
5 WTXF 29 (FOX, Phila.)
6 WPVI 6 (ABC, Phila)*
7 WPHL 17 (WB, Phila.)*
8 CN8
9 WYBE 35
10 WCAU-10 (NBC, Phila.)*
11 QVC
12 WHYY 12 (PBS, Phila.)*
13 Local/Community Access
15 WMCN TV
16 WUVP 65 (Univision)
18 WGTW 48
19 C-SPAN 2
20 WPPX 61 (PAX)
21 INSP
22 C-SPAN
23 WPSG 57 (UPN, Phila.)*
24 WWSI 62 (Telemundo)
27 Animal Planet
78 Leased Access
95 EWTN
98 WTVE 51
245 WPVI-DT News Plus**
246 WPVI-DT Weather**
P.S> If you want to get the channels with 2 ** and the six additional not shown above free network HDTV channels(networks are marked with 1 *), you need a digital converter for about $5/mo. That would make it $14.38 all together.
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| Yeah, I know. It's been like that for a few years now, if you want expanded basic you have to get the digital box, and that instantly jumps your bill from the $29-39 up to like $59, If you want the full digital package they have that's like another $30 for a total of $89, and if you get Broadband in your area yet another $49 for a total of $138 a month, and that's for 1 box, not including setup fees, installer charges, and taxes...
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Re: All part of moving to all digital; no stopping
One of the most intellectually and technically vacant thought processes I've read in a long time. |
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Re: All part of moving to all digital; no stopping it
When Comcast has "issues" about deploying the lower cost Cablecards (which cost less to deploy than full digital boxes and don't allow PPV ordering), you know they want to grab more money from the customers.
Face it, this is nothing more than another way to go back to charging for set top boxes like before. |
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