Chris 313
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| What's the point?
What's the point of having a Tivo or any type of DVR if you can't keep something you recorded for as long as YOU want to?
I've a recording from April of this year still on my DVR and it's staying until I decide to erase it or the box fries.
Screw this "Bug"! |
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AtomicZero
join:2004-11-24
West Palm Beach, FL
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| said by Chris 313  :What's the point of having a Tivo or any type of DVR if you can't keep something you recorded for as long as YOU want to? GOOD QUESTION |
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kpatz
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join:2003-06-13
Manchester, NH
| What I don't get is... Tivo gets its revenue from its subscribers. So wouldn't it be in their best interest to cater to their wants/needs and not the media companies?
And what's the point of forcing a delete date on a recorded show, besides to put more restrictions on paying subscribers? They should lower their fees if they're going to impose that sort of crap.
If I decide to go the DVR route in the future, I'll be going the MythTV route. I should be controlling the DVR, not the DVR provider or media companies.
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@cofs.net | Tivo wants to get cozy with the big cable companies so they'll use it as their preferred DVR. To that end, they'll do whatever it takes to appease them, including crap like this. |
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ihaddsl
join:2001-12-05
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| reply to kpatz
Blame Macrovision, not Tivo
Tivo has done this because they have to, in order to keep to ability to record PPV and other premium items that are protected using Macrovision.
Macrovision has changed it's terms stating that items protected by macrovision cannot be kept except under the rules layed out by the content provider
for Tivo, this means they either
1) Allow DRM for Macrovision encoded shows
2) Lose the ability to record Macrovision shows
The wider DRM we've seen is indeed a bug in the content protection detection logic, which should have never got out the door, but it's a different issue to why Tivo was forced to include such a DRM scheme
»arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20···307.html |
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cwoody222
join:2005-05-24 | reply to Unregistered user
Re: What's the point?
Cable companies have the same thing to lose that TiVo does since they also sell their own DVRs and service.
This is coming from Macrovision, in turn, who is getting pressure from copyright holders (ie: studios).
Not the cable cos. |
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barky
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join:2001-03-17
San Diego, CA
|  For cable companies, DVRs are a tiny fraction of their overall revenue. Keep in mind, most cable companies let you upgrade to a DVR box for under $5 a month. Tivo, on the other hand, relies solely on DVR revenue. If people stop using commercial DVR's, Tivo will go out of business, while the big cable companies won't even blink at the change. |
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Kearnstd
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
| reply to Chris 313
any bets on how long until someone makes a filter that blocks the broadcast flag? they did it for VCRs when some tapes got macrovision you could order filters from magzines and even radioshack.
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