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SSX4life
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join:2004-02-13
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DRM is bogus

I personally hate all forms of DRM, and looking at how industry led officals seem to throw money at policy holders and lawmakers to get their way while the standard user suffers because of it. Can someone please tell me why the hell they are making a big deal at locking down content so f*cking much? It seems like everything and their little opinion and idea is becoming copyright, where are the days and the ages where everyone shared, had personal opinions and were vocal on them? What happened to "the customer always comes first" or "the customer is always right". I feel like we have been pushed to the back corner by money grabing, obnoxious, and pushy lawmakers and coperations. Look at the DRM that is now HARDWARE BASED on Intel Pentium D processors (I hope they sink into a pool of their own filth), or now Tivo's etc. etc. etc.

My PERSONAL property is simply that... personal. And if something is broadcast over PUBLIC airwaves who in ther right f*cking mind would go out of their way to block their content, that is like having a DRM flag for the radio saying you can't repeat what was said or listen to it on a cassette tape! I'm simply pointing out the fact that copyright protection is going in the wrong direction and if we don't do something soon to stop this (not like we can in some ways) then we are going to just have to shell money every time we want to turn on the TV or watch a movie.

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Goober

join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
I'm hoping replayTVm doesn't follow with this nonsense. Regardless, though, I'm getting to the point where the internet and my Xbox is starting to become a great supplement to my two ReplayTVs.

jytr

join:2005-02-03
Cliffwood, NJ

reply to SSX4life
This also implies that certain shows and segments supplied by our news media can also impose these restrictions.

There will be a day, in a few years, where there will be no free TV. To view, you'll have to buy a little box. If your box records, it'll have the recording restrictions and limits. You will always rent what you see. Pay per view and on demand TV.

This will also apply to radio.

Peace.

cwoody222

join:2005-05-24

reply to Goober
Hate to burst your bubble but ReplayTV has supported the same Macrovision DRM for over a year.

They're just not seeing the 'false positives' TiVo is... which is probably blind dumb luck since ReplayTV hasn't updated their software in going on two years...

(I have both a TiVo and a ReplayTV)


Goober

join:2000-12-17
Naperville, IL
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said by cwoody222 See Profile :

Hate to burst your bubble but ReplayTV has supported the same Macrovision DRM for over a year.

They're just not seeing the 'false positives' TiVo is... which is probably blind dumb luck since ReplayTV hasn't updated their software in going on two years...

(I have both a TiVo and a ReplayTV)
Yeah, now that you mention it, I remember reading about it over at avforum.


lml2000
Whazzup

join:2000-08-17
Los Angeles, CA
·RoadRunner Cable

Believe only Replay series beginning with 3000 series has Macrovision DRM. I have an upgraded 2000 series & I'm 100 percent certain there is no Macrovision encryption capability that can "manage" any content recorded on my drive . . . including PPV. It's one reason why I've stuck with the machine . . . & an example of why I went with Replay v. TiVo back in 2000 when I bought the 2000 series. I can skip over commercials; I don't pay a monthly fee (paid for lifetime service @ time of purchase); I have no one collecting data on my viewing habits; & I don't have involuntary software upgrades that increasingly impinge upon my domain over recorded content.

Will keep as backup once I move to an MPREG4 HD-DVR from DirecTV in 1Q2006. IMHO, TiVo has NEVER been about "TV the way u want it." It's been about survival of a questionable business model.


insomniac84

join:2002-01-03
Schererville, IN

reply to cwoody222
said by cwoody222 See Profile :

'false positives'
False positive my arse. What are the odds a random signal error matches a digital signal perfectly. Probably non. Its a cover up, they might have even been testing their ability to delete shows.


X-static

@bellsouth.net

reply to cwoody222
>Hate to burst your bubble but ReplayTV has supported the
>same Macrovision DRM for over a year.
>They're just not seeing the 'false positives' TiVo is...
>which is probably blind dumb luck since ReplayTV hasn't
>updated their software in going on two years...
>(I have both a TiVo and a ReplayTV)

As do I (well several actually) and recording from a DVD always tags the content with a flag on the TiVo (or sometimes it simply refuses to record).
On my Replay 5040 I can record a DVD without consequence.
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