Danobegood
join:2004-11-30
Melrose, MA | reply to G_Poobah
Re: Faster internet but same prices for cable TV
oh yeah...I forgot to mention that thing called CAS, but you probably thought that meant condition access system - WRONG, and it works well with IP. |
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Danobegood
join:2004-11-30
Melrose, MA | reply to G_Poobah
can you say VOD over IP? Select what you want, when you want it...sounds like VOD to me. And multiples...hmmm I have two browsers open right now. |
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Danobegood
join:2004-11-30
Melrose, MA | reply to fiberguy
have you ever written a check to a programming provider for a viewership of 1.6 million? Try figuring out how much you need to pay the food network and then discovery channel x only those customers who subscribe. Not just an addressability thing. |
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Danobegood
join:2004-11-30
Melrose, MA | reply to Xela19115
cable companies don't DWDM their forward plant signal. The only reason they would is if they had two cable plants. One for the 1490 lambda and one for the 1550 lambda. It would be useless to DWDM a fiber when it is destined for one coaxial cable. |
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Danobegood
join:2004-11-30
Melrose, MA
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dude, you're making me sick. You obviously no squat about TeleVision Recieve Only, A-Synchronous Serial Interface, Multi Program Transport Streams, Motion Picture Experts Group Version 2 Numbers, Digital Multiplexors, Gigabit Ethernet Interfaces, Small Form Factor Pluggables, Cisco, Small Form Factor Pluggables, Smartstream Encryption Modulators, Digital Encryption Standard, Two Hundred Fifty six Quadrature Amplitude Modulation, Dense Wave Division Multiplexing,Fiber Optic Transport Mediums, Optical Network Terminals. Do you have a "duh" key on your keyboard? Or maybe an "anykey" to continue what you were doing before you started posting your uninformed knowledge? Spend your time elsewhere like a lemonade stand, you'd be seeing more people who are at the knowledge level you are obviously showing.
P.S. you're welcome for the class on acronyms
Humbly,
Someone who is just a tad more informed than you. |
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Danobegood
join:2004-11-30
Melrose, MA
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You obviously have never operated an addressable controller before. Get a clue bud. Yeah you can do al-la-carte with every channel but then the number of services would bog the addressable controller down to a crippling halt and you'd have a useless controller system. Aside from that the billing addressability issues you'd be faced with would make any addressable engineer quit their job and work for Hannafords as a grocery bagger. It's not as simple and operationally manageable as you assume. Go take an addressable controller course at Moto and then repost your thoughts.
Dano
BTW have you ever heard of the words "Linear" or "VOD"? Linear is when the channel is sent all the time and VOD is when you request a video program on demand. To send a channel only when it is requested means you would have to realtime encode the program and make it available on demand - so much for the new years countdown or that winning goal by the Pats - you'll never be on time again in the VOD world - trust me, digital TV is linear...for now. |
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zduchene
join:2004-10-11
Huntington Beach, CA | reply to OtherJohn
your actually wrong. When I signed up for FIOS I did not have Verizon phone service and I don't have it now, I have Vonage, it is sweet! |
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tasmithe
join:2002-09-16
Graham, NC | reply to OtherJohn
"THIER"??? LOL
"think" ??? LOL |
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ghenjei
join:2000-12-19
Grand Prairie, TX | reply to Larry21
that is correct - each service can be purchased separately. |
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Larry21
join:2001-04-24
Plano, TX | reply to OtherJohn
I have FIOS Internet but I do not have Verizon telephone, I use Vonage, so much for your 2 cents |
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JadeBee
@70.104.x.x
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That's news to me. I've been on FIOS in Rowlett, Texas, since Feb 2005. At the time, I was using Comcast digital phone service and was never even asked to switch to Verizon phone service when I requested their FIOS Internet service. Still haven't been, and still on Comcast phone. |
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OtherJohn
@coxfiber.net
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One think to keep in mind with FIOS, is that you are REQUIRED to use them for phone service also. Where Cable companies you do not have to use the. For Example, Cox Cable does not require you to purchase Thier phone package if you get Thier High Speed Internet or Cable.
With FIOS, you have to use Thier phone for Cable or Internet. No ifs, ands, or Buts..
my 2 cents.
john |
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KrazyDawg
join:2001-02-07
Vallejo, CA
clubs: | reply to TKJunkMail
$20 is still savings. It'll cover the cost of my 500 min plan for Vonage. |
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besafe
| reply to TKJunkMail
Then keep cable TV for to reasons:
(1) getting TV through fios would be putting all eggs in the same basket: the next time you get a problem -- and there are many -- you would lose Internet AND Phone AND TV.
(2) As consumers we have to have some competition and how will Verizon be ever convinced to offer a la carte choices if we switch for the same price? |
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wmcbrine
Touched by His Noodly Appendage
join:2002-12-30
Laurel, MD
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said by G_Poobah  :But, umm, aren't they also advertising that you can record SIX (6) channels at once. I'd be VERY interested to see a box that has SIX (6) digital decoders installed at once. "Record" does not mean "decode". You can very easily record six digital streams at once without decoding any of them; you only have to decode one stream at a time, on playback. Again, nothing to do with IPTV.
DirecTV is planning a six-tuner DVR, also. No IPTV there. |
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G_Poobah
join:2004-01-17
Schenectady, NY
1 edit | reply to fiberguy
... It worked. Mod note: No it didn't.
»www.microsoft.com/tv/content/Pre···_05.mspx
They come forward and say they are using the motorola boxes for IP-TV. This is the exact same box that SBC is using for their IP-TV initiative.
Now, for the naysaying loudmouths. Sure, at face value you can say they are 'just testing IP-TV'. But, umm, aren't they also advertising that you can record SIX (6) channels at once. I'd be VERY interested to see a box that has SIX (6) digital decoders installed at once. I mean, that would be quite a powerful and amazing box to decode SIX (6) channels at once. Umm, unless of course you used IPTV, which are tunerless, and can have many streams sent to it at once. Maybe I'm missing something, but, umm, 6 decoders are once? And you have one in every room in your house? Hmm.. that would be ... interesting to see.
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One of the FREE studies (most of them are pay, like the gartner one, but they all show about the same thing), shows that the average multi-channel viewer still only watches between eight and 10 channels for more than 15 minutes in an average week –typically this includes at least four of the five networks and about four or five niche channels.
»www.bbc.co.uk/consult/pdfs/dcms_···pact.pdf
Does that sound like you? Hmm.. sounds like me.. Most channels I just surf right by, maybe watch a minute or two, but 90% of my viewing is on a very small range of channels. Of course, I never watch anything live, everything is replaytv or mythtv or downloaded divx.
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20 | reply to cdru
Maybe poo needs to throw up the old c-band satellite and do individule agreements with the channels he wants. Then he can have it his way. |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
Premium
join:2005-05-20
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said by G_Poobah : Again, ZERO technical reason you can't belong to a single channel group. And again you still miss the point! Delivering single channels has NOTHING to do with the technology. Cable companies have been able to do this for at least 15 years now. Where have you been?
Delivering singles channels can be done with anything from Analog cable to digital cable. In analog, they have to scramble basic and deploy settops. The box drivers can be sent channel and service masks that authorize single channels.
Same can be done with the digital cable too. As long as a system is addressable, it can be done. The reason it's NOT done is because it's not financially feasable to deliver service to the masses on an ala carte basis. Those choosing single channels wanting a couple of channels would be wind up paying the same rate as basic cable at about $3.00 or so per channel. And, it would cause the basic and digital tiers to increase as well for loss of viewship and advertising revenue.
It's obvious you have some degree of insight into technical jargon - don't know if you are just quoting stuff you have read or if you have some level of first hand knowledge, but it's obvious you don't take in the whole world of television which is important if you want to justify your point. |
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EnasYorl
Thieves World
join:2001-12-02
West
 ·Verizon Online DSL
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said by TKJunkMail :Well FIOS is bringing a very fast internet connection. But it is obvious that their prices for cable TV tiers are no better or worse than cable or satellite TV. Not surprising, because those rates are determined more by the content providers than by the companies delivering that content. My Web PageJoin Red Room Forum Who is your cable provider? as those are way cheaper then where I live. |
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
clubs:
 ·Comcast
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said by G_Poobah :umm, not IPTV? I'd be very very interested to know how you can send an analog signal over fiber. Yes, it IS IPTV all the way (IGMP to be specific). There's no 'analog' signal on fiber. Video on Demand is RTSP or some proprietary cisco crap. In fact, if you want analog, they have to install a DAC converter in your house. FIOS TV is a multicast IGMP signal, and the headend box is configured to decode the appropriate signals to display on your TV, depending on your group membership. Channel selection is ALL configured at the central site, which broadcasts the keys for your personal box so you can decode a channel. Again, ZERO technical reason you can't belong to a single channel group. Well I guess the above posts may have had you change your mind. I have done contract work for verizon and your idea's are not how they are doing it. But it was really fun to see ya shot down so quickly and proven wrong with out me even having to be present.
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