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hayabusa3303
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clubs: | Think about it Not only have they extended but,what about CELL phones?
They where to have 911 to your location but never did it.(far as i know)
Fcc lets that slip by, ooo thats right the bells can BUY there way out of it. | |
|  fitzov
join:2005-01-13
Mansfield Center, CT | Re: Think about it FCC lets that slip by because VOIP providers have no political clout other than offering their customers an awesome deal. Go figure. | |
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fcisler
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Riverhead, NY
| said by hayabusa3303  :Not only have they extended but,what about CELL phones? They where to have 911 to your location but never did it.(far as i know) Fcc lets that slip by, ooo thats right the bells can BUY there way out of it. As far as i've seen, and on every cell phone i have ever had (going back ohh around 5+ years), they ALL have E911 service....even if NOT ACTIVE (no pricing plan). In fact, my girlfriend's cell phone, my parents, and my sisters all have LBS (Location Based Services) with two options:
1) Enabled
2) Disabled (Except E911)
Although i've never had to call 911 on a cell for an emergency (My first 3 or so phones i called to test it), but if they are making this much fuss over VoIP, i'm gonna bet that cell 911 is pretty good. | |
| | k_mumm
join:2001-06-14
Laramie, WY | Re: Think about it No it's not good at all. The blame can also be put on some of the 911 call centers. They don't have the cash to update thier systems to interface with the new cell phone emegency location system. | |
| | ronny_b
join:2004-10-10
Saint Louis, MO
| I had to call 911 for emergencies twice a few years ago. In both cases, the call went to a different city, and had to be transferred back to my location. My cell service was with AT&T if that counts for anything.
It may be better today. Thank God I haven't had to find out.
Ron | |
| | gbh2o
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| said by fcisler :said by hayabusa3303 :As far as i've seen, and on every cell phone i have ever had (going back ohh around 5+ years), they ALL have E911 service....even if NOT ACTIVE (no pricing plan). In fact, my girlfriend's cell phone, my parents, and my sisters all have LBS (Location Based Services) with two options: 1) Enabled 2) Disabled (Except E911) If my memory serves me right, _only_ the old AMPs service had a requirement to provide 911 on a phone without service. And yes, it still works for me on any AMPs capable phone that has ever been activated. I have _never_ had Location Based Services, partly because I don't like the idea of anyone having the ability to easily track me, whether I want it or not. My cell phone is _very_ mobile, and any location information available for 911 would likely fail to locate me. If my phone is on, they can always try to triangulate my location, but that is all. Likewise, my VoIP service also travel with me. Short of trying to make a general geographic location based on IP in use, it is unlikely that E911 would provide meaningful information. However, I do have a POTS line with E911... why should I be forced to pay repetitive fees for what is for me mobile service? Simply, to further line the tax coffers of some level of government agency cozy with some so-called public utility... follow the money trail. | |
| | | dustman81
join:2002-05-28
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| Re: Think about it I had to call 911 from my e911-ready cell phone a couple of months ago around Cleveland to report a car fire. The operator didn't know my location and I had to give a cross street to pinpoint my location.
The phones may be ready, but the network is not. | |
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mikes60
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| said by hayabusa3303 :Not only have they extended but,what about CELL phones? They where to have 911 to your location but never did it.(far as i know) Fcc lets that slip by, ooo thats right the bells can BUY there way out of it. Many cell phones do give locations, but you're comparing apples to oranges.
Cell phones are portable and never have an exact address associated them. The technology to do this is available, but expensive and difficult to implement.
Land line VOIP phones usually have an exact address associated with them. There are exceptions, such as I know are available on Vonage and probably others, where you can pick another area code for your number. If you do this, and dial 911, it's obviousy a problem unless you set it up correctly with Vonage. They may have a way of identifying where the phone is actually located. But I'm not sure of this.
While I'm not sure another extension was proper, a comparison to cell phones is not valid
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| | Fisamo
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| Re: Think about it [BQUOTE=mikes60While I'm not sure another extension was proper, a comparison to cell phones is not valid
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The extension is simply for VoIP customers to acknowledge the limitations of VoIP (E- or "not E") 911 in comparison with PSTN E911. I believe a better analogy here would be for the government to demand that a company prove it has received 100% of its recalled product within 30 days of notification when a safety recall is demanded. Many people will ignore canned voicemails, bright snail mail flyers, and form emails. The more attention-grabbing, the more likely some people are to assume that the notification is a marketing gimmick and toss it. I personally think the short time lines given for VoIP E911 implementation and acknowledgement-of-limitations are not reasonable.
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mikes60
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Boynton Beach, FL | Re: Think about it I don't really disagree with you. I was really responding to the cell phone analogy. I just didn't want to get into a discussion about the extension.
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