Mactron
el camino Real
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join:2001-12-16
CM94sv
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Re: "Unlimited" is a BEAUTIFUL Word
said by ke4pym  :CABLE. I don't want to pay extra for the phone line tax for a line I don't want, need or will otherwise use. DSL. I don't want to pay extra for a Cable subscription I don't want, need, or be punished an extra cost for not having.
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ropeguru
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join:2001-01-25
Bridgeport, WV
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| said by Mactron :said by ke4pym :CABLE. I don't want to pay extra for the phone line tax for a line I don't want, need or will otherwise use. DSL. I don't want to pay extra for a Cable subscription I don't want, need, or be punished an extra cost for not having. No, you are just forced to pay for that POTS line from the xLEC that you do not want. If you are not lucky enough to have someone like Covad or Speakeasy and the like to provide you naked DSL.
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entropy1
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join:2002-09-25 | Then you pay out the ass anyway with those companies. |
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KAD Imaging
Just Shoot It
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join:2002-09-21
Hialeah, FL
 ·AT&T Southeast
| reply to ropeguru
said by ropeguru :No, you are just forced to pay for that POTS line from the xLEC that you do not want. If you are not lucky enough to have someone like Covad or Speakeasy and the like to provide you naked DSL. No, you are just forced to purchase a cable product inferior to satellite in every way and twice as expensive for less digital content. 
(sure, cable will give ya um...bundled hsi for $20 extra a month. Total cost: Crapcast 81ch basic package $48. Crapcast umbundled hsi +$20 = $68. Basic BS pots no add-ons $19. BSFA +$45 = $64 = DSL WIIIINS....PERFECT! lol )
(oh yeah, BSFA is UNlimited instead of Crapcasts UM...limited service including 2GB newgroup cap. I think my NB Pro has been downloading for 6 days including today straight and I could go to Europe til winter and not worry about a damn thing when I return!)
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entropy1
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join:2002-09-25 | Oh...you're one of those who chooses an isp based on what "extras" they offer, sort of like AOL style. I tend to go more for the connection. I just subscribe to my own choice of newsgroup access. |
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KAD Imaging
Just Shoot It
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join:2002-09-21
Hialeah, FL
·AT&T Southeast
| said by entropy1 :Oh...you're one of those who chooses an isp based on what "extras" they offer, sort of like AOL style. I tend to go more for the connection. I just subscribe to my own choice of newsgroup access. Uh, no. Newsgroup access is part of the package. BS is fully unlimited whereas Crapcast limits you to 2GB and CAPS throughput to like 3KB or something ludicrously small.
Your welcome to pay all the extra money you want for newsgroup access.
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entropy1
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join:2002-09-25 | I've experienced no "capping" of throughput whatsoever. Also, I've found that the access I pay for is far superior to any free access I've gotten with any isp over the years...unlimited or not...be it dsl or cable. |
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itguy35
@mo.chart
| reply to KAD Imaging
$64 = DSL wins? for NO TV SERVICE? You can take that same $68 cable package and add voip for $25/month and have everything a home user needs. Your $64 DSL option doesn't include any tv content at all - that math is about as fuzzy as a TELCO's. And as far as cable being "inferior to satellite" here in MO, if a person were to so much as as sneeze on their dish or the sky gets cloudy, you might as well plan on having a fuzzy SATV picture. I have many friends with the "more cost effective" SATV and i will take my cable any day of the week. Especially since i have 5 meg Charter pipeline (consistent at 4.7mb) and 7 TVs in the house. Oh BTW, Charter's customer service runs circles around SBC in this area. I've used everything from Wireless, to DSL, and now cable and I'm staying with cable. |
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KAD Imaging
Just Shoot It
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join:2002-09-21
Hialeah, FL
·AT&T Southeast
| said by itguy35 :
$64 = DSL wins? for NO TV SERVICE? You can take that same $68 cable package and add voip for $25/month and have everything a home user needs. Your $64 DSL option doesn't include any tv content at all - that math is about as fuzzy as a TELCO's. And as far as cable being "inferior to satellite" here in MO, if a person were to so much as as sneeze on their dish or the sky gets cloudy, you might as well plan on having a fuzzy SATV picture. I have many friends with the "more cost effective" SATV and i will take my cable any day of the week. Especially since i have 5 meg Charter pipeline (consistent at 4.7mb) and 7 TVs in the house. Oh BTW, Charter's customer service runs circles around SBC in this area. I've used everything from Wireless, to DSL, and now cable and I'm staying with cable.
I'll just quote a previous post when I listed a my cable and dsl setups..
said by Me :
BS DSL Ultra (1.5)
Complete Choice = $30
Emergency LD Plan = $1.99
Extreme DSL = $35
TOTAL = $67 (+ taxes/fees = $75)
CRAPCAST Cable
Standard Package = $49 (81 ch Analog)
Digital Classic = $56 (127+ ch)
TOTAL = $49
(DVR = $10/mo)
$75 + $49 = $124
Current:
BS DSL Extreme (3.0)
Complete Choice = $30
Emergency LD Plan = $1.99
Extreme DSL = $45
TOTAL = $77 (+ taxes/fees = $85)
Direct TV
TOTAL Choice Plus (150+ ch Digital) = $45.99
BS Answers Disount = -$4.99
TOTAL = $41.99
(DVR = $4.99/mo)
$85 + $42 = $127
So for $3 more per month I doubled my DSL speed and am getting 30 more DIGITAL channels plus there's no rental fee for the a box. CRAPCAST sucks "a big fat donkey d***!!!"
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printscreen
join:2003-11-01
Juana Diaz, PR
 ·Choice Cable TV
·Coqui/PRTC
| reply to ropeguru
said by ropeguru :No, you are just forced to pay for that POTS line from the xLEC that you do not want. If you are not lucky enough to have someone like Covad or Speakeasy and the like to provide you naked DSL. What if my POTS line has already been there for ages and I still want/need that line? I don't have a POTS line because I have DSL. I have DSL because I already have a POTS line. In my case, the cost of the phone service doesn't come into play for what I pay for DSL because I would have the line anyway without DSL.
It's amazing how many people assume that everybody with DSL is forced to pay for a POTS line. Some are, many aren't. |
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