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mishaq
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join:2004-01-24
Richardson, TX
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VDSL...

Another potential problem that DSL has a lot is the inside wiring of the household. Many homes we live in were built in the 50's, and the wiring wasn't done to modern specs, and has had time to degrade over 50 years since it's simply 2 strands of thin copper. So even if you're 1000 feet from the central office or a RT doesn't exactly mean one will get the exact promised speeds. 24/26 gauge copper is 100 year old technology, Verizon's got the right Idea, I hope SBC and Bellsouth (or perhaps just SBC when they buy bellsouth ) get hit in the head and see the light, of fiber!
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Damn you FCC!


lml2000
Whazzup

join:2000-08-17
Los Angeles, CA
·RoadRunner Cable

U got it right. Unless the telco is willing to upgrade, or subsidize the customers inside wiring, which as u say, is often 30-50 yrs old & in need of such an upgrade, the telco's push to deliver video & HSD to compete with cable, IMHO, will not go very far. It's an end-to-end solution. So, all the investment in the world that does not go all the way to the customer's gateway (i.e. modem, ONU, router, etc.) will not yield the expected ROI envisioned. I don't believe that telcos today get this.

I'm roughly 6,100 feet from the SBC RT that serves my 'hood, so this VDSL2 means nada unless SBC pushes the fiber to the nearby cross-connect about 600 ft away . . . & even then, their gonna have to make me an offer I can't refuse w/respect to updating all the copper wiring inside my house . . . b/c I know w/o CAT-5 or CAT-6, SBC is just not gonna be able to deliver on their "promise."

bogey780

join:2004-03-19
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All you have to do is replace a single wire to the modem and place a noth filter on the rest from the outside.


lml2000
Whazzup

join:2000-08-17
Los Angeles, CA
·RoadRunner Cable

thanks for u'r reply. as far as replacing wire, ez'r said than done. completely understand, but techs who come to my house prefer to rely upon existing wiring, id one pair they can clear of problems, isolate it, just as u have suggested.

Notwitstanding, if SBC wishes to sell me video & myriad of other services delivered to a modem or router, i require ny new CAT-5 be laid to that modem or router, @ a minimum, to ensure me high reliability of that connection, particularly when it rains. Wiring in my house, is old, prone to cross-overs whenever it rains . . . & long after. It is certainly no physical layer w/which to deliver 21st century services.

U'r entitled to u'r opinion, but it's I, the customer, who will decide which carrier I will choose to provide most or all of my services @ some pt in the future. W/o improved inside wiring, I would not be amenable to video services from SBC.

But 1st things 1st. Right now, I'm 6,100 ft from the RT, the nearest fiber node, so until SBC pushes the fiber closer, this discussion in not ripe.
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