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TechSponge

join:2001-05-14
Hillside, NJ
No Thanks...Really...NO, I DONT WANT IT!

Id rather stay with seperate devices. I like to be able to choose my OWN SPI Firewall and routers and switches and Access points for myself and my clients.


zoom314
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join:2001-04-30
Yermo, CA

said by TechSponge See Profile :

Id rather stay with seperate devices. I like to be able to choose my OWN SPI Firewall and routers and switches and Access points for myself and my clients.
Ditto.:D
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cbrock

join:2003-03-12
Union City, CA

So to follow your logic, then it would be better if there were even more separation of components...such as separating the 4-port hub from the router as well as the wireless functions:

DSL modem + NAT router + 4-port switching hub + wireless transceiver. That would be four separate boxes.

I was using a SpeedStream 5360 + D-Link DGL-4300 gaming router. Now I use an ActionTec GT704WG all-in-one DSL modem, 4-port NAT router with 802.11G. And you know what? Transit delay (ping) is even lower since I've effectively reduced all IP connections by one hop.

Also the ActionTec has an additional USB 1.1 port for Windows PCs which I use a fifth LAN connection. It has about 9% lower peak throughput compared to the 100mb Ethernet ports (4.8mb/s vs 5.1mb/s), but it is an added convenience.


zoom314
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join:2001-04-30
Yermo, CA

said by cbrock See Profile :

So to follow your logic, then it would be better if there were even more separation of components...such as separating the 4-port hub from the router as well as the wireless functions:

DSL modem + NAT router + 4-port switching hub + wireless transceiver. That would be four separate boxes.

I was using a SpeedStream 5360 + D-Link DGL-4300 gaming router. Now I use an ActionTec GT704WG all-in-one DSL modem, 4-port NAT router with 802.11G. And you know what? Transit delay (ping) is even lower since I've effectively reduced all IP connections by one hop.

Also the ActionTec has an additional USB 1.1 port for Windows PCs which I use a fifth LAN connection. It has about 9% lower peak throughput compared to the 100mb Ethernet ports (4.8mb/s vs 5.1mb/s), but it is an added convenience.
If You have a router, Then why would You want to duplicate the 4 ports on It with a Hub? I mean unless You have 6 or 7 computers It seems rather silly.
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dibbb

join:2003-09-19
·Time Warner VOIP

I've got a switch (smart packet-switching hub basically) attached to my 4-port router because I have 10 computers hanging off it, for my small business, not at home...

So yeah, in some cases people do that, like you said.


inzomniaq

join:2003-01-12
Houston, TX

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The first place that I live at that had broadband was an apartment complex (»www.waldenweb.com) that leased its own T3 through TW Telecom. Each of the apartments were wired with CAT 5 and had RJ45 jacks. So no cable or DSL modem was necessary. Just an Ethernet card and cable and a router if you so desired. So I bought a NATting SOHO router.

At the time I purchased the router, 3-4 switched ports was the max you could have on the router, so another switch was necessary.

The next place I live at had only DSL as a broadband option, so while I had the option of buying a combination device, I couldn't justify the extra expense as I already had a SOHO router and another switch. So I opted for the modem only.

I have Road Runner cable (until I'm comfortable with my DSL service) at the place where I'm at now (a different complex at »www.waldenweb.com .) So this time I opted for the cable modem only device since I still have SOHO routers and switches.

I guess one syptom of moving around and going with different providers is that you seem to accumulate additional gear one or two pieces at a time. I started accumulating before combo modem-SOHO-routers were widely available and just didn't see the need to replace everything with a single combo gadget since what I have is already working.

kdhamann

join:2003-11-08
Medina, OH

reply to zoom314
Not all routers have a 4 port switch included. I still use a DLink DI701 "router / internet gateway" which has *one* ethernet LAN port. It goes into a 8 port switch with a 4 port + uplink downstream. Computers + network printers add up quick. I have 3 or 4 routers with built in switches, but "if it ain't broke..."
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