mistereyet
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join:2005-08-09
Greenville, NC | [DW6000] Turning modem off
Is it safe to turn your DW6000 off every night? My installer said it wasnt good to leave it off for a long time because it might lose it settings or something and you'd have to recommission it. |
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dbirdman
Premium,MVM
join:2003-07-07
Eureka, CA
| While it is true that a modem left off long enough will become decommissioned, it is a lot longer than a night, or a weekend, for that matter.
There is no documented problem with leaving it off overnight, so far as I know.
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wolfridge
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join:2003-03-01
Manson Creek, BC
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I live far beyond the grid and my power is turned off every night out of necessity. While I believe it is better to leave the power on turning it off has not adversely affected me in three years.
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Brassua
join:2004-05-17
Rockwood, ME |  reply to mistereyet
I left our DW6000 unpowered for maybe up to a good part of a full month this past winter and there was nothing wrong with it when it was powered back up.  |
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Riversinlet
join:2004-12-14
B.C. Canada | reply to mistereyet
I was the same as wolfridge.....off the grid....Gen sets only...and turn my DW6000 off every night for a year and half...some times twice a day...to save on fuel never has been a problem.
Rick |
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mistereyet
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join:2005-08-09
Greenville, NC | reply to mistereyet
Thanks guys, those bright lights on that thing bug the crap out of me when im trying to sleep lol. |
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grohgreg
Dunno. Ask The Chief
join:2001-07-05
Dawson Springs, KY
4 edits | said by mistereyet  :those bright lights on that thing bug the crap out of me. Counterpoint.
If your reason for turning off the modem is other than power conservation, leave it run. I always recommend protecting sensitive electronics like your DW6000 with a capable UPS, then letting it run 24/7/365. Other than unreliable input power and inadequate ventilation, the biggest electronics killer is on/off switch. The more heat up/cool down cycles (on/off) you subject these devices to, the shorter their lifespan.
The other consideration - specific to Direcway modems - is AutoCrossPol. The NOC ACP server periodically queries your modem, whether you're there or not. It wants to make sure that your system is still "airworthy". If your modem is off, the NOC server logs the attempted ACP test as "failed". Something like seven successive failures results in them remotely disabling your modem for cause
The short version is; if Hughes intended for this thing to be switched on and off all the time, they'd have given it a switch. There are plenty of threads here about the bright blue LEDs, and plenty of novel ideas about how to tone them down.
//greg//
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tcas2
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join:2003-11-15
Walnut Cove, NC
| As Greg advised...
Leaving the modem off for a week of vacation caused the above mentioned disabling. Running AutoCrossPol returned it to service that time.
I would vote to leave it on if at all possible...although we shut down during heavy thunderstorms. Short term shutdowns appear to present no problems.
No expert here!
michael
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goatman
join:2004-08-31
Ash Fork, AZ | reply to wolfridge
Same as wolfridge... Off the grid ..... Turn mine off and on all day long and at night.......3 years and no problems.. |
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wolfridge
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join:2003-03-01
Manson Creek, BC | reply to mistereyet
I have to restate it is better to leave the power on if possible. |
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dbirdman
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join:2003-07-07
Eureka, CA
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said by grohgreg :The NOC ACP server periodically queries your modem I agree with leaving electronics on when possible, but I'm not sure the above is true, for the 6000 at least.
The 6000 has a counter that says how long it has been since the last ACP, and the minimum/maximum time for next revalidation. I think the ACP request comes from the modem in that window, not from the NOC.
On mine at the moment it has been 566589 seconds since the last crosspol, and the minimum revalidate interval is 1209600 seconds. These numbers are found under the ACP Statistics link at »192.168.0.1/fs/advanced/advanced.html
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Bajadoc
join:2003-05-23
West Linn, OR
| Hey dbirdman,
If after a number of failed transmissions you are "turned off", how do you go about "turning on" again. I have had my system off for as long as 4 months, and all I had to do is run and PASS ACP to restart my system. Seems as long as you pay your $59, Dway would not decommission or otherwise disable your system.
Am right to assume that any disabling that is done can always be rectified by passing an ACP test?
Bajadoc
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grohgreg
Dunno. Ask The Chief
join:2001-07-05
Dawson Springs, KY
1 edit | reply to dbirdman
said by dbirdman :I'm not sure the above is true, for the 6000 at least. The 6000 has a counter that says how long it has been since the last ACP, and the minimum/maximum time for next revalidation. I think the ACP request comes from the modem in that window, not from the NOC. From what I've read here, those numbers internal to the DW6000 zeroize when reset/power cycled/shutdown/whatever. Accordingly, the NOC server is reported to query each site ID on a schedule of it's own.
Not that I've actually seen this myself, but a whole lotta folks have reported ACP activity here, that sounds collectively like the above. The ACP thing is secondary to the electronics wear and tear issue anyway.
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dbirdman
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join:2003-07-07
Eureka, CA
| said by grohgreg :From what I've read here, those numbers internal to the DW6000 zeroize when reset/power cycled/shutdown/whatever. Nope. The values that "zeroize" on that page are the values that show the last results for ACP. The time value is persistent, including across shut-offs and resets.
I don't have enough data to tell for sure, but I believe the modem will attempt the revalidation when it is past the Minimum Revalidate Interval. There is also a "Maximum Revalidate Interval" and it may be that when it turns on and finds that number exceeded it shuts down until a manually-initiated ACP occurs.
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Rfsjr2
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Ferndale, WA
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| said by dbirdman : I believe the modem will attempt the revalidation when it is past the Minimum Revalidate Interval. There is also a "Maximum Revalidate Interval" and it may be that when it turns on and finds that number exceeded it shuts down until a manually-initiated ACP occurs. Turn everything off, go on vacation for a few weeks, then you'll have to deal with "revalidation." But I find it interesting that users who turn off everything at night, and then turn things back on every morning seem to have less issues than people who leave everything running all the time.
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