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The Folsom
Kindly Shut Your Noise Hole.
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Re: ARRL will fight BPL to the death
The "Bubble Pack Pirates" is an apt term. the FRS does share some frequencies with GMRS and I have on many occasions heard some of their operations. FRS radios out of the box are unable to access the repeater frequencies of GMRS, though.
The "Combination" FRS/GMRS are very popular. These are most likely the "Pirates" to which you refer; these radios have a higher output on the GMRS portion. Frequently, the packaging downplays the need for an FCC license to operate on the GMRS portion, and advertise them as "22 Channels". There is usually a small advisory in the enclosed literature about requiring a license. I have met many people who have bought these and bragged about having "more channels and more power" than "regular" FRS radios. If this is brought to their attention, they usually shrug and say, "So what? I have more power and more channels than the guy next door!" But most of the combos don't have a repeater capability and at 1W output, they are not likely to cause interference to the higher powered transmitions to stations operating legitimately. Technically, it is a violation of Rules, but unless more people start using unlicensed GMRS radios to "jam" GMRS users or simply operate without a license, the FCC is not going to have the time or the interest in pursuing illegal operators(IMO). I am not aware of such occurances, but I would be surprised if there were none.
With all respect, though, I think you are incorrect about GMRS being non-commercial. There are many businesse that use it, and if they cannot get a frequency pair in their area, they must enter in to a written agreement with the owner of a local repeater.
I would be interested in hearing more about this issue, but I think I have jacked the thread far enough.
Also, the original reply I made to Retired_rich's original post was more aggressive than was necessary; in the heat of being ham radio's self appointed defender, I may not have considered the main point of his post. I wish I could edit out the post I made, but it is too late. So I offer to him here my public apology and hope that this part of the thread can die.
But thank you for your comments.
Cheers.
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pcscdma
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said by The Folsom  :Although your first link had some interesting material, it was nothing I had not already read elsewhere.  As to the ARRL link, I read that one with much interest; I agree with and support their position.  I like 49 MHz and GMRS, too, but I don't have a license for GMRS-for some reason, it doesn't interest me at all. The links were more directed towards the kind of people who think that hams don't like BPL. Hams don't like interference. Most (all?) of the early BPL schemes used the high-power power lines to carry the data.
GMRS is for non-commercial use only and you can set up a repeater with it. It's somewhere around $60 for a 5 year license and your whole family can use it. There are 8 462mhz & 467mhz repeater pairs with a max power of 50W.
The bubble pack pirates are taking over the spectrum with their FRS/GMRS radios. But the FCC doesn't seem to care about it. More interested in breasts and shit. I think that may be why interest in GMRS is dwindling.
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