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Karl Bode
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Re: Another BBR attempt to justify music pirating

Point out where this blurb "justifies" piracy? It points out DRM attempts are failing. It also points out music sales are strong despite piracy.

You're in such a rush to grab the first spot on every news post every day on every subject, I'm pretty sure you don't actually read any of them.


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said by Karl Bode See Profile:

Point out where this blurb "justifies" piracy? It points out DRM attempts are failing. It also points out music sales are strong despite piracy.

You're in such a rush to grab the first spot on every news post every day on every subject, I'm pretty sure you don't actually read any of them.
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said by Karl Bode See Profile:

Point out where this blurb "justifies" piracy? It points out DRM attempts are failing. It also points out music sales are strong despite piracy.
I don't see a denial that you think copyright infringement(theft) is ok or that you haven't posted article after article defending the practice. The editorial selection of news stories shows what you think.
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You're in such a rush to grab the first spot on every news post every day on every subject, I'm pretty sure you don't actually read any of them.
Off topic and false.
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G_Poobah

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Copyright infringement? Where?

If you purchased the album legally, please explain where copyright infringement happens? I bought it, they took away my right to play a legally purchased CD on my ipod, so I downloaded a LEGAL COPY from a P2P network.

There's no infringement there. nothing to see.
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You're flailing your arms. I think DRM doesn't work. I think suing customers doesn't work. I think the industry can't and won't adapt. I believe in fair use rights. But we've never "justified piracy".

Still waiting for evidence this article "justifies" piracy. Can't provide any?


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i think this artcicle here is simply explaining whats going on with the albubm, no where does it say "its ok to steal music, download as much as you can!". i seen something on CNN the other day talking about how music theft is growing, are they supporting it too?

"Of course, despite the DRM, P2PNet points out the album is still being freely copied, one of the songs off it holding the number one spot among illegally traded rock music files. Despite that, the album has topped the charts - selling 736,000 units since launch, (and 23,000 digital copies)."

where in there does it say its ok to steal music?
if you dont like BBR and their news that they give out, no one here is forcing you to read it.


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said by Karl Bode See Profile:

You're in such a rush to grab the first spot on every news post every day on every subject, I'm pretty sure you don't actually read any of them.
Off topic and false.
Off topic, I know, but I had to back Karl Bode See Profile up on this one!

If what Karl Bode See Profile is saying is not true then why are most of your first posts a short one or two sentence post that is edited right after posting almost every time to make the post go along with the subject matter?
He is not the only one noticing.....

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MeanPeepsSuk
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Who cares if Retire_Rich is first??? (Besides you two?).

When I agree with him or not.. At least they are on-topic (Ahem) and they are sure a lot better thread starters than most.

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Re: Another BBR attempt to justify music pirating

So what if someone drifts a little bit off topic? Just so it ain't way out in left field, it makes life more interesting.

In this particular case though, I do note it was a jab.

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On topic? See above reply.


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said by MeanPeepsSuk See Profile:

Who cares if Retire_Rich is first??? (Besides you two?).

When I agree with him or not.. At least they are on-topic (Ahem) and they are sure a lot better thread starters than most.
I agree with you.....I've just noticed that to some posters, being first is more important than making a comment that would be useful to the discussion. That's All!

Just like the poster that you sited in your post link!

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said by G_Poobah See Profile:

Copyright infringement? Where?

If you purchased the album legally, please explain where copyright infringement happens? I bought it, they took away my right to play a legally purchased CD on my ipod, so I downloaded a LEGAL COPY from a P2P network.

There's no infringement there. nothing to see.
Did you not know? That is the infringement! You are suppose to buy a new copy each time you wish to use a new media just for that media.

That is the new wave that people like Retire_Rich and his Hollywood (just a guess, not a known fact) friends would like to get into place.

And I will leave out the politics since it looks like it is no longer just one party, but all parties and groups that are being bought out. (Isn't it amazing how certain people spout off about the "dems did this", or "the repubs did that", but ignore the fact that the other party usually had the same view previously but not the wherewithal to implement it?)
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Copyright infringement? Where?

If you purchased the album legally, please explain where copyright infringement happens? I bought it, they took away my right to play a legally purchased CD on my ipod, so I downloaded a LEGAL COPY from a P2P network.
Well, there is some slightly grey area about whether or not downloading the "same group of bits" as you would obtain through ripping a lawfully-owned copy of a work into a digital data file is legal or not.

But in general, these new DRM schemes are more-or-less CONSUMER FRAUD upon the people. I think that needs to be clearly pointed out to people.

A copy-protected "CD" is in fact, not really a CD, since it doesn't meet the proper specifications, and usage of the trademarked logos is trademark infringement, and likely a violation of the licensing agreements that the large publishers have to sign to use the logo(s).

But of course he doesn't bring up that aspect, of how big business is 'raping' the consumer, oh no...

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said by Karl Bode See Profile:

You're in such a rush to grab the first spot on every news post every day on every subject, I'm pretty sure you don't actually read any of them.
I agree. He obviously has nothing better to do. You guys should lobby congress to pass a bill to put all these retirees back to work instead of them mooching off social security and causing a raucous.


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I think it's most important to remember that, originally, copyrights were designed to keep someone from PROFITING from the use of someone else's intellectual property. The protection was designed to stop illegal use by another business entity.

Now it's about trying to control the uses of the CONSUMER. Make no mistake, ultimately these initiatives are leading up to attempts by media giants to ram through per-use types of fees. Sound ridiculous? The Phone Company (I'm talking the AT&T monopoly here) tried for years to get measured-service rates (fortunately without success). The agenda of the media-interest groups are much larger than what is being talked about in the present.
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