gpancner
join:2001-09-27
Nine Mile Falls, WA | Freedom & Security
Those who trade freedom for security will get neither.
Who was the guy who said this years ago? |
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BosstonesOwn
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Everett, MA
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| Benjamin Franklin
The quote reads like this.
Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.
Benjamin Franklin
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DaneJasper
Sonic.Net
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join:2001-08-20
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| In other news:
»sonic.net/augie/wpmu/dane/index.php
George Bush spoke at the annual Boy Scouts of American Jamboree, and announced the creation of the official “Republican Youth” - a new sub-branch of the army. Youth will be taught military skills and the conservative values of the Republican Party. As the war in Iraq progresses, and as freedom of movement, speech and thought here in the US is curtailed, the duties of the Republican Youth are expected to expand.
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Wow, isn't that interesting?
-Dane |
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nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
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| said by DaneJasper  :Wow, isn't that interesting? Not really, and how is that link "news"?
-tom
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
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said by DaneJasper :Youth will be taught military skills and the conservative values of the Republican Party. As the war in Iraq progresses, and as freedom of movement, speech and thought here in the US is curtailed, the duties of the Republican Youth are expected to expand. ... Wow, isn't that interesting? Dane This has to be one of the most asinine things I have ever read from the kook left. The creation of what you describe as a Hitler Youth style Republican Youth organization, apparently you are reading the kook left wing blogs, you must be one of them to believe this crap. Here is the text of President Bush's speech to the Boy Scouts of America where in this speech does he mention the formation of a Republican Youth such as you describe above.
President Bush in a Video Speech to the Boy Scout Jamboree 30 July 2005
THE PRESIDENT: Hello, Boy Scouts, and thanks for this opportunity to send a word of greeting to your National Jamboree. Let me also thank General Colby Broadwater and the fine men and women of Fort A.P. Hill for hosting this event.
I'm so sorry the weather didn't allow me to join you in person, but I wanted to say a few words to the Scouts and Scoutmasters who have come to this Jamboree from all across the country.
You know, next month I'll be going to my ranch in Crawford, where I'll work and take a little time off. I think it is so important for a President to spend some time away from Washington, in the heartland of America. And whenever I go home to the heartland, I am reminded of the values that build strong families, strong communities and strong character, the values that make our people unique.
It is those values that are such an important part of Boy Scouts. And I want to thank the adults here who have shown good values, who have taken the responsibility upon yourself to build the wisdom and character of our young people. And the Scoutmasters of America accept this responsibility every day. I want to thank all the Scoutmasters who set a good example and help Scouts learn the values that give direction to their lives.
When you join a Scout troop and put on the Boy Scout uniform, you, too, make a statement. Like every uniform, yours is a symbol of commitment. It is a sign to all that you believe in high standards, and that you are trying to live up to them every single day. As you do that, you bring credit to the Scout uniform and credit to your country. And I want you to know your country is proud of you.
Many of you have been to Washington this past week, maybe for the first time. You know, it's interesting, one of my predecessors, President Gerald Ford, saw Washington for the first time a few years after he became an Eagle Scout. Back then, in the '30s, Scouts helped collect food and clothing for people suffering from the Great Depression.
In our own time, you all have taken the lead in the fight against drug abuse. In Texas, Boy Scouts were among the first to take up a reading challenge that I set. All across America, Boy Scouts are doing good turns daily. And every time you do a good turn, this becomes a better country. There are needs in every community, and those needs can be met one heart, one soul at a time.
You can make a difference for America by the life you lead and the lives you serve. Times and challenges change, yet the values of Scouting will never change. Scouts of any era would recognize every word that you live by today, because those words have always defined Scouting. The goodness of a person and of the society he or she lives in often comes down to very simple things, and words found in the Scout Law. Every society depends on trust and loyalty, on courtesy and kindness, on bravery and reverence. These are the values of Scouting and these are the values of America.
What you have learned in Scouting will see you through life. In good times and difficult ones, the Scout Motto will always help you: "Be prepared." And whatever you do, the Scout Oath will always guide you: On your honor, do your best.
I thank every Scout and Scoutmaster for being a part of this great organization, and for being a part of this successful Jamboree. May God bless you all, and may God bless the United States of America.
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That's a VERY good idea, you'd think people who DIDN"T want anyone listening to them, would use VOIP for illicit purposes when they could encrypt voice via broadband already... Hmmm, these guys missed the common sense train, long ago.  |
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA
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It's a flat out lie--as I suppose we are supposed to guess from the name of the "media outlet" on the linked page--"Bullpress". The URL hints that it's Dane's own website.
It's a malicious effort to get some people to fear and hate GWB even more than they do. Of course, when you are the liberal left, it's OK to do stuff like this because the conservative folks in the US are just despicable, right?
Dane, we deserve an apology here....
calvoiper
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t3freak
join:2004-04-11
New Port Richey, FL | reply to gpancner
Now I can sleep peacefully at night.:( |
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guitarzan
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said by nixen :said by DaneJasper :Wow, isn't that interesting? Not really, and how is that link "news"? -tom How is that News? It's absolutely GASP, a horror of horrors for the burnt out liberal bastion left over from the Clinton regime to discover the Boy Scouts have more upright moral values than the left put together.
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nixen
Rockin' the Boxen
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| said by guitarzan :How is that News? It's absolutely GASP, a horror of horrors for the burnt out liberal bastion left over from the Clinton regime to discover the Boy Scouts have more upright moral values than the left put together. Ok, I guess I should frame my prior question: how, in the literal sense, is a link to someone's agenda-laden blog "news".
As to the Boy Scouts' non-progressive social agenda, that's hardly news, either.
-tom
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SaBo7Ge
join:2003-03-12
US | reply to BosstonesOwn
Close... The actual quote reads,
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-- Benjamin Franklin |
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA | ...and I wonder which liberties Franklin deemed "essential"?
calvoiper
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BosstonesOwn
join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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said by SaBo7Ge :Close... The actual quote reads, "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin You never know since we were not there. But the sentiment is the same.
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guitarzan
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Skytop, PA
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said by nixen :said by guitarzan :How is that News? It's absolutely GASP, a horror of horrors for the burnt out liberal bastion left over from the Clinton regime to discover the Boy Scouts have more upright moral values than the left put together. Ok, I guess I should frame my prior question: how, in the literal sense, is a link to someone's agenda-laden blog "news". As to the Boy Scouts' non-progressive social agenda, that's hardly news, either. -tom Someone's personal blog, I agree that's not news, that blog could be so far out in left field, it may not even resemble reality even faintly.
Thank God the boy scouts are not tree hugging liberals, tainted by socialistic nit wittery.
Guitarzan
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JoeOnSunset
Doublethink Is Doubleplus Ungood.
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join:2002-11-25
Ormond Beach, FL
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Hey crazy reactionists! Though the link to the blog was not useful or relevant, you're making fools out of yourselfs decrying its falsehood. The whole "Republican Youth" deal on the blog is a JOKE. I mean, you actually quote the whole speech to prove he never mentioned the "youth army." Are you kidding me? That's like screaming and yelling because Tiny Fey on Weekend Update quoted Gov. Arnold as saying he's excited about the mudslides and earthquarks because he likes action. No, the Governor never said that either, smart guys. That's why it's a joke.
By the way, the rest of the blog entry read: "Also announced, the firearms merit badge is now mandatory, and must be completed immediately after the knife and axe handling badge. New merit badges were also announced. These include a special badge for spying on one’s parents, and one for marching with stern looks on their young faces."
Someone post a press-release from the Boy Scouts saying there isn't going to be a special "spying badge". Then cry about how the blogger is making things up and is a left wing kook! Go on, it'll be fun to watch. |
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Transmaster
Don't Blame Me I Voted For Bill and Opus
join:2001-06-20
Cheyenne, WY
| The problem is there are left wing kooks that believe this kind of stuff. So we never know if these people are serious or not. With Harry "has been" Belafonte comparing The Bush with NAZI Germany, and calling all of the African Americans in his administration as "Black Tyrants", Senator "Pickled liver" Kennedy, comparing our Military as with to Saddam Hassin what are we supposed to think.
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