sbeasley
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Albion, IN
4 edits | Wave IP OFDM 5.8 GHz Gear
From what I understand Frenzel zones for 5.8GHz are much smaller than say 900 MHz, and from what I've read 900 MHz is the best solution for NLOS setups, but then I came across this.
Introducing GigAccessTM OFDM 5.8 Broadband Wireless Access (B.W.A) system.
Using Orthogonal Frequency Division Multiplexing (OFDM) GigAccessTM OFDM 5.8 delivers high data rates coupled with great spectral efficiency and NLOS capabilities
How can it have NLOS? Is it because it is using this OFDM technology? If so how effective is it compared to 900 MHz.
Here is what the area around my house looks like in about a 2.5 mi diamater, as you can see this is pretty wooded. All those trees are about 60-70 ft high. Elevation changes are about +/- 20 ft
I'm pretty much right in the center
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John Galt
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| Re: 5.8 GHz Gear
said by sbeasley  :Introducing GigAccessTM OFDM 5.8 Broadband Wireless Access (B.W.A) system. Using Orthogonal Frequency Division Multiplexing (OFDM) GigAccessTM OFDM 5.8 delivers high data rates coupled with great spectral efficiency and NLOS capabilities How can it have NLOS? Is it because it is using this OFDM technology? If so how effective is it compared to 900 MHz. You might mention that this is WaveIP gear...so people know what you are referring to.
»www.waveip.com
The answer to your question is 'yes'.
Did you check out their 900 MHz OFDM gear...??
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sbeasley
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1 edit | Yes I was originally going to use that, until I read about the 5.8 Gear, so I wanted to make sure I was making the best decision. I've included a pic of the area around where I'm going to install in the above post. |
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John Galt
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| said by sbeasley :Yes I was originally going to use that, until I read about the 5.8 Gear, so I wanted to make sure I was making the best decision. I've included a pic of the area around where I'm going to install in the above post. You probably saw the 900 MHz DSSS gear...WaveIP has 900 MHz OFDM gear coming out. It will combine the best of both worlds. It should be unstoppable!
The 5.8 will get thrashed by the trees to some degree. You might consider 2.4 before 5.8...
BTW, you do not have many trees...trust me.
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sbeasley
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| Do you know when the 900 OFDM gear is to be out? I'm looking to start buying equipment in the next couple of months, and if it is going to be in 3 mo, I may wait, just for it.
Thanks for the tree comment. I thought that I did have a lot of trees, but from atleast the WaveIP side of things there is no difference in price between the 900 MHz and the 2.4 GHz, but I would rather have the ease of install with the RSU that they have. They have a RSU for the 2.4 gear, but I don't think that it would get very far. |
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John Galt
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| said by sbeasley :Do you know when the 900 OFDM gear is to be out? I'm looking to start buying equipment in the next couple of months, and if it is going to be in 3 mo, I may wait, just for it. Ummmm...you should wait. I think that this will fit in with your timeframe. It should be "widely available" at that time.
Trust me...!
The RSU rocks! I would have to say that it one of the major reasons that I like the WaveIP gear. The 2.4 RSU will work also...it just needs to be near a window, pointed in the right direction.
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sbeasley
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Albion, IN | I think I will wait then, will the price be comparable to the current 900 MHz gear or do you expect a price increase? |
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John Galt
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sbeasley
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Albion, IN | Sadly this has become quickly off target, but atleast I've gotten my questions answered. Thanks John for all your help. Now I must wait and drool over this new gear that is coming out. |
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John Galt
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sbeasley
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1 edit | You did. I said that atleast I got my questions answered, and I said thanks. What more did you want
Unless your name isn't John Galt... Then who are you? |
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John Galt
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sbeasley
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Albion, IN | Sorry about that I guess I was saying sadly it went off topic, because I don't like to change the subject, as I feel it is bad forum ettiquette |
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| said by sbeasley :Sorry about that I guess I was saying sadly it went off topic, because I don't like to change the subject, as I feel it is bad forum etiquette Well, at least it was REMOTELY connected, which is saying ALOT after reading some of the other forums here at BBR.
No problem...!
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John Galt
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| Here is another topo map that shows the elevation changes using shading...
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sbeasley
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Albion, IN | Thanks that pretty useful. |
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wispman
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Re: Wave IP OFDM 5.8 GHz Gear
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What does a single unit of the wave ip 900 cpe cost? |
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John Galt
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| said by wispman :OFF TOPIC What does a single unit of the wave ip 900 cpe cost? OFF TOPIC REPLY!!
About $400-$500, depending on if you use the RSU indoor or the OSU outdoor units.
More or less...
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sbeasley
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| You can go to »mwinfra.digitalwhispers.net/ which is Curt Gordy's site, and check out prices he has
RSU $399
OSU $499
He also has a High End SU listed for $499, but I don't know what the difference between it and the OSU is. |
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bcbuie
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| You need the High End OSU to do the consecutive AP deal I believe. It also gives you twice the bandwidth on the same channel width (I'm not sure if that applies to their 5MHZ narrowband product, probably not which is why the price dropped on it). It basically has two processors instead of one.
I don't think the 900MHZ OFDM gear is supposed to be public knowledge yet, Curt will probably freak if he sees this (hey, at least it wasn't me who broke the news)  But 7Mbps of usable IP throughput on a 5MHZ channel is hard not to get excited about. |
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