Equis
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join:2005-03-18
Australia
| -90 on AP, -62 on Client
Hello,
My Client says its connected with -62 signal but the AP is saying only -90
The link is going through 1 tree but I'm not sure why both ends are reporting different signal.
Does anyone know what casues this?
Thanks
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nwn
Premium
join:2004-03-05
Centerville, IN
| The Client is seeing the AP much better than the AP sees the CPE. The difference can be because:
1) Different radio powers
2) Different antennas
3) Nearness of tree
4) Multipath
5) Interference
I probably missed something.
Try moving the CPE to the other end of the building or up/down some and see what happens.
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Scott |
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Antennaguy
join:2001-08-06
Lincoln, NE
| reply to Equis
More than likely it is that:
1. The AP and client are using different radio output power levels. (AP is higher)
2. The radio in one of the units (CPE) has a bad transmitter, and is transmitting at a lower power level than it should.
3. The AP and client use different algorithms to compute the signal level received, or they have different receiver sensitivities or both.
Antennas, trees and multipath will not create a difference between these units because they affect the total path in both directions. Plug the numbers into a Link Budget calculator and it will show that if the AP and client have the same transmit power, they will have the same received signal level.
Interference will affect the signal/noise ratio but not the RSSI. |
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nwn
Premium
join:2004-03-05
Centerville, IN
| said by Antennaguy  :Antennas, trees and multipath will not create a difference between these units because they affect the total path in both directions. Until 2 weeks ago I would agree, but...
In my lab I had a client set up pointing directly at my POP 2.5 miles away. Wasn't trying to connect, just that is the direction it was laying. No signal either direction, trees are in the way. I moved some things and the CPE antenna moved 90* AWAY from the POP. It was now pointing directly at the woods 70' from the lab. Client showed -80 RSSI from the AP. Don't remember the LQ. AP saw nothing from this client.
The only explanation I have is that enough of the AP signal bounced of the trees for the CPE to see it, but because of distance, direction, antenna gain, etc. the AP could not see the CPE.
I would think the same thing could apply here, the CPE is seeing the AP on a path that does not work the other way.
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Scott |
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bcbuie
join:2005-07-20
| I think he was saying the trees would not be the REASON for the difference in signal readings. When you moved the CPE and picked up a signal on the CPE, the signal probably increased equally on both ends. It just turns out that the signal at the AP was not higher than the AP's sensitivity, so it showed no signal.
The reason for the difference would most likely be higher amplification at the AP end than at the CPE end, it is a pretty common problem.
Remember, amplification is one-way. All things being equal, if you have 30db output power at the AP, but only 23db output power at the CPE, then you would see 7db less signal at the AP (assuming equal antenna gains).
The easiest solution is to just use a higher gain antenna at either the AP or the CPE. Antenna gain is bi-directional and is typically preferred over increasing output power.
Having said that, -90 at the AP and -62 on the client is a big gap. What is the output power and antenna gain of the AP (and the CPE)?
Ben |
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Equis
Premium
join:2005-03-18
Australia | reply to Equis
Hi Guys,
The CPE & AP Are teh same 20db grids with 20dbi cards
The tree is about 10 meters from the CPE and about 2km from the AP.
It did work fine till it rained :-( |
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bcbuie
join:2005-07-20
| Have you switched CPE to rule out problems with it. Does the CPE allow you adjust the power output in software, maybe the power accidently got turned down?
Are the cards inside the CPE and the AP the same make/model? If not, what is the sensitivity on the AP vs the CPE?
Just fishing here. From the large discrepancy it almost sounds like the transmitter on the CPE is damaged.
Ben |
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Equis
Premium
join:2005-03-18
Australia | well changed the radio again and its perfect 
Was a burned out reciever by the sounds of it |
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