ArchAngel21x
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join:2001-10-28
Lincoln, NE
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| Re: Article I have heard that it is a way to force businesses to pay a hefty price for their symmetric services, IE a T-1. Who would pay for a T-1 line if you could get a 5/5 Meg cable line? Actually, that is a can of worms Verizon is opening with their FIOS...
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join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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| Re: Article t 5 ?
Did I miss a new level of service there ? I though oc are the next step up from a t-3 / ds-3.
Btw T1 prices are only 250 a month now and falling fast. t1 with an sla can be had for $250 but if you turn down the sla they can go as cheap as $99.
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scooby
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| Re: Article said by BosstonesOwn  :t 5 ? Did I miss a new level of service there ? I though oc are the next step up from a t-3 / ds-3. Btw T1 prices are only 250 a month now and falling fast. t1 with an sla can be had for $250 but if you turn down the sla they can go as cheap as $99. Links backing this up? Maybe for the line charges but not for both line and data. | |
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| Re: Article said by scooby :said by BosstonesOwn :t 5 ? Did I miss a new level of service there ? I though oc are the next step up from a t-3 / ds-3. Btw T1 prices are only 250 a month now and falling fast. t1 with an sla can be had for $250 but if you turn down the sla they can go as cheap as $99. Links backing this up? Maybe for the line charges but not for both line and data. Call sbc or qwest. at this point they are quoting well below 250 if you are even remotely close to any co with a decent pop.
»www.t1market.com/ is the fastest look up service i know of but any call to the csr's in their respective business divisions and you will get a decent quote in 10 min max.
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join:2001-06-09
Allen, TX
| Re: Article said by BosstonesOwn :Call sbc or qwest. at this point they are quoting well below 250 if you are even remotely close to any co with a decent pop. You obviously havent been T1 shopping recently.
Tariff price on a loop is somewhere around 250 in the state of Texas. Add data charges to this, you easily get to 500. SBC quoted me just the other day at 545 plus tax.
It doesnt matter if you are close to a CO, within a POP, or anything like that. The monthly cost of a dedicated hi-cap line is pretty much the same across the board. There isnt much of a change between prices.
Its the installation costs that will get you. If you live in the boonies, you can get a T-1 provided the equipment is installed and they have a backhaul to a POP. Most do. Digging up and laying down a loop might cost you a small fortune though. | |
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hayabusa3303
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clubs: | Yes there are T-5 lines and there are T-8 lines but no one uses them. To much money per month why you dont here about them. | |
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join:2001-02-10
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join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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| Re: Article I have never seen them on provider charts at all. But I will try and find their country of origin they may be equivalent of ds links in europe.
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join:2002-12-15
Everett, MA
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| Service/Line Rate(Mbps) Voice channels
DS1 T1 1.544 24
DS2 T2 6.312 96
DS3 T3 44.732 672
DS4 T4 274.176 4032
Those are all I have access to from every isp in north america. Oc links are pure optical so they don't show as an option for t's.
I would imagine a t5 would just be another wave of tdm but I have honestly never seen them even on some of the major phone links here.
Ironically Europe offers E-1 to E-4 in same structure just not same throughput and capacity as us t's.
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Gort, Klattu Birada Nikto
join:2001-02-10
Santa Clarita, CA
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| Re: Article Got it. It's just that I've been doing telecom and data for 23 years and would hate to find out I missed something along the way. And yes, a lot of countries outside the US use E circuits. A lot of fun when converting between the standards.
Thanx for the info  .
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John Galt
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Happy Camp
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| Re: Article said by hayabusa3303 :Most cable head end uses between 10 to 50 T-1 lines at once. Its not profitable using t-3 lines too much money. I'm getting quoted $650 for a T-1 and $2250 for a T-3, plus loop.
That's more than 50 T-1's??
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hayabusa3303
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clubs: | Re: Article If i remember right our T-1 at work is only 300 a month.
Thanks for the info there John on that quote it has me puzzled if thats what they say more power to them.
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John Galt
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Happy Camp
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| Re: Article said by hayabusa3303 :If i remember right our T-1 at work is only 300 a month. Thanks for the info there John on that quote it has me puzzled if thats what they say more power to them. 2250 is a cheap price but how much is the loop or is that added in? The loop is additional, based on distance.
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| said by John Galt :said by hayabusa3303 :Most cable head end uses between 10 to 50 T-1 lines at once. Its not profitable using t-3 lines too much money. I'm getting quoted $650 for a T-1 and $2250 for a T-3, plus loop. That's more than 50 T-1's?? Thats weird Today i installed 2 t-1 to a tower in central mass and a t-3 to western mass tower and the quotes and prices we got were much lower then that. t3 to a mountain tower was 2750 with local loop. and the t's as back up were 275
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hayabusa3303
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clubs: | Re: Article Different bells i think have different prices on the t-lines. | |
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Wauchula, FL | WOOOT I was just quoted from Sprint two weeks ago on a T1 for $650 a month...Where you get your prices I would love to know.. | |
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oliphant
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Corona, CA | For a lot of businesses T-1 is all about the SLA not the speed. | |
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KoolMoe
Aw Man
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join:2001-02-14
Annapolis, MD
clubs: | Re: Article But you can get an almost-comparable SLA with SDSL as you can with a T1, which often provides twice the bandwidth for the same cost.
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SpitefulCrow
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join:2003-06-04
Berkeley, CA
| Fios is not a symmetric architecture. The PON system that Verizon is building provides 622Mbps downstream and 155 Mbps (I think those are the numbers, someone correct if I'm a bit off) upstream per line card in the CO.
Fios is also not designed for businesses. IIRC, not even the $200 30/5 package comes with an SLA. | |
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