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Frink
Professor

join:2000-07-13
Scotch Plains, NJ

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Bull

Great new speeds...BUT WAIT...actually try to put it to use, and GET CAPPED!

Angrychair

join:2000-09-20
Jacksonville, FL
Indeed. I wonder how many minutes of consecutive downloading before this 20/2 turns into 1.5/0.256.


IMHO



The real quesion is, how many sites anyone visits are capable of providing the corrasponding level of connection?

I mean, great, I can download at 100mbs, but do you think for a minute most of the companies out there are capable of providing servers out there with that kind of return connection?

So far, in many cases, I've found servers where I've been where I want to download something (usually a fairly large file say 600Mb or a Gb of data are not quite up to the task to match what my connection is capable.

So, until these companies get thier networks / servers up to snuff, in a lot of cases having these ultra high speed connections is just fluf.

Now could it be those who are the gamers are the ones driving this? Perhaps, so we benefit from this being able to get the faster speeds, but we aren't likely to really see the benefit until the businesses with the associated file servers embrace the new technology also.

Sure, they will embrace it for thier internal systems, but for external systems I sincerly doubt we'll see much.


AcidDevil

join:2002-07-02
7th Layer

reply to Frink
said by Frink See Profile:

Great new speeds...BUT WAIT...actually try to put it to use, and GET CAPPED!
Excatly.....I don't care...what marketing crap OOL pulls I still say FIOS here I come.....when they decide to come that is...:D:D
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"I'n un vecchio palazzo qualcosa che non riusciamo a vedere si sta muovendo....."


Tzale
Proud Libertarian Conservative
Premium
join:2004-01-06
Sweden
·Verizon FIOS
·Optimum Online

reply to IMHO
said by IMHO:

The real quesion is, how many sites anyone visits are capable of providing the corrasponding level of connection?

I mean, great, I can download at 100mbs, but do you think for a minute most of the companies out there are capable of providing servers out there with that kind of return connection?

So far, in many cases, I've found servers where I've been where I want to download something (usually a fairly large file say 600Mb or a Gb of data are not quite up to the task to match what my connection is capable.

So, until these companies get thier networks / servers up to snuff, in a lot of cases having these ultra high speed connections is just fluf.

Now could it be those who are the gamers are the ones driving this? Perhaps, so we benefit from this being able to get the faster speeds, but we aren't likely to really see the benefit until the businesses with the associated file servers embrace the new technology also.

Sure, they will embrace it for thier internal systems, but for external systems I sincerly doubt we'll see much.
Yes, they will be able to provide it. Look at the current day situation. Several years ago most sites were designed to handle dialup only. Now that broadband is the majority here in America, hosting services are sizing up their packages to provide content to the broadband users. If 20, 50, 100mbps connections become the norm, hosting providers will have no choice but to provide that bandwidth or risk losing business. Bandwidth has NO set price. Bandwidth is not a physical thing. Bandwidth is just an amount of "virtual digital data" that has a set price based on the current day price of residential connections. If 100mbit connections are provided cheaply to residential customers, then hosting providers will have a reason to provide 100mbits to each site. It CAN be done. Slowly, it is happening.

Look at residential broadband. FIOS shook everything up with it's wide scale fiber to the premise project. Now several cable companies are upgrading to 15mbps, 16mbps, 20mbps and 8mbps... We're talking about companies who provided little more than (1.5mbps or 3mbps) just a year ago. Things are changing, this is capitalism at it's finest. You can't get the best EVEN if it is available UNLESS some company has the balls to go out on a limb and provide a magnificent service that is widespread. OOL had 10mbps/1mbps all along since day one. The reason why no one else had a need to upgrade is because OOL only services NJ,NY,CT. Also, Verizon DSL feels the heat of OOL here in the NY area because Verizon can't provide more than 1.5mbps or 768kbps to most people here. That is why in the OOL coverage area 3 out of 4 customers choose Optimum Online over any other broadband service.

-Tzale
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Electronic Frontier Foundation - Defending Freedom in the Digital World

hescominsoon

join:2003-02-18
Brunswick, MD
·Comcast
·Verizon Online DSL

reply to IMHO
said by IMHO:

The real quesion is, how many sites anyone visits are capable of providing the corrasponding level of connection?

I mean, great, I can download at 100mbs, but do you think for a minute most of the companies out there are capable of providing servers out there with that kind of return connection?

So far, in many cases, I've found servers where I've been where I want to download something (usually a fairly large file say 600Mb or a Gb of data are not quite up to the task to match what my connection is capable.

So, until these companies get thier networks / servers up to snuff, in a lot of cases having these ultra high speed connections is just fluf.

Now could it be those who are the gamers are the ones driving this? Perhaps, so we benefit from this being able to get the faster speeds, but we aren't likely to really see the benefit until the businesses with the associated file servers embrace the new technology also.

Sure, they will embrace it for thier internal systems, but for external systems I sincerly doubt we'll see much.
BT will stuff it..:)
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God Blesshttp://www.emmanuelcomputerconsulting.com-- carpe ductum -- "Grab the tape"

Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO

reply to Tzale
I agree some what, but you overlook that if residential customers are getting 100mbps connections then the server having that same connection is not enough.

A server that gets thousands or even millions of hit an hour will need a lot more bandwidth then 100mbps especially if it is a server that is hosting downloads. In that case even a 1GB connection wont be good enough. Hosting companies would have to have multiple GB connections to host multiple servers.

Bandwidth will continue to increase and continue to get cheaper but 1GB of bandwidth is a lot and expensive right now.

Only time will tell, but for now there are very few that will provide the download/upload to utilize this. Hell, I have 3mb dsl right now and most of the downloads I get are in the 150-200k range. Every once in a while I will find a place that I can download around 300k at, but they are few and far between.
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