rcilink
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join:2003-12-15
Manchester, NH
| [DTA310] Firmware Recovery ThreadI know several here have a DTA310 with it having a 'half-loaded' firmware set.
Examples of common problems might be:
1. I was running firmware 12.39 in my DTA310 and I decided to load firmware 11.11. Now, it is stuck and I can not upgrade to any firmware.
2. I have a DTA310 that tells me "no application loaded" and is stuck in a downloader mode.
It appears that this happens when the boot/downloader firmware gets out of sync with the application firmware.
So, if this idea proves to be correct, and you find yourself with a 'stuck' DTA310, think of it this way. You need to try loading the previous firmware back into the DTA310.
For example, I have a DTA310 with the following firmware on it:
Application Code Version: DTA version 1.0 US (8x8 001315)
Downloader Code Version: 1.0 US (8x8 010225)
So, that tells me that if I load firmware 11.11 and the downloader is at 010225, i might be lucky enough to be able to re-load 13.15 and get my DTA310 'un-stuck'.
Maybe with everyone's help we could start a list here of firmware matches (Application code version + Downloader code version).. So, if your stuck with a downloader code that does not match the application code, you can find which real firmware contains that downloader code version and reload it.
It beats tossing the thing... | |
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 rcilink
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join:2003-12-15
Manchester, NH
| Re: [DTA310] Firmware Recovery ThreadHere is the LeadTek AR16O firmware signatures (code versions)
Application Code Version: SIP version 1.0 US (LDTK AR16O ) checksum e423
Downloader Code Version: 1.0 US (8x8 010113) checksum 6fc7
Got the downloader code version "010113" ? Stuck with the wrong application code (old P8 firmware) matched to that? If you have that downloader code version, try reloading the AR16O firmware to see if it makes the DTA310 happy (matched firmware set, so the DTA310 knows where the starting address of the application is). | |
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voiplover
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join:2004-05-28
Portsmouth, NH | Re: [DTA310] Firmware Recovery Thread I thought a member posted the fix about a month ago. | |
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Zombie999
join:2004-05-04
Toronto, ON
| Downloader Code Version: 1.0 US (8x8 010220)
Does somebody know what firmware matches this downloader version. I have tried upgrading to every version I have without success.
Somebody posted a fix? How did I miss it. | |
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rizzo2dial
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join:2004-08-05
1 edit | Here's what my 2 DTA's look like:
DTA #1 (connected to P8):
Application Code Version: DTA version 1.0 US (8x8 001315)
Downloader Code Version: 1.0 US (8x8 010225)
DTA #2 (Leadtek AR16O Firmware):
Application Code Version: SIP version 1.0 US (LDTK AR16O ) checksum e423
Downloader Code Version: 1.0 US (8x8 010113) checksum 6fc7
Looks like I've got the same settings as rcilink.
Rizzo | |
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| jasonjsimon
join:2003-01-03
| Re: [DTA310] Firmware Recovery Thread Great Idea! This is what I have with my two stuck boxes:
P8 Firmware:
Application Code Version: DTA version 1.0 US (8x8 001111)
Downloader Code Version: 1.0 US (8x8 010220)
Leadtek Firmware:
Application Code Version: SIP version 1.0 US (LDTK AR16O ) checksum e423
Downloader Code Version: 1.0 US (8x8 010221) checksum 9420 | |
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rcilink
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join:2003-12-15
Manchester, NH
| Here's an observation..
They updated the downloader code (version 010225) to break the LeadTek firmware from loading into the BPA410. If you try to load it, it says "download failed".
I installed firmware 13.12 (with downloader code 010221) and it let me then update the firmware with LeadTek AR16O..
Unfortunately, the thing got munged! Now, I can not access the web interface (no DHCP info from my server), and even tried to code-in a static IP address via the phone handset at boot. nada.
So, I took the cover off, looking for the ultimate solution. Staring at me is that 40-pin Host Interface. In the BPA410, I can see where most of the traces go, so I will begin mapping it out to build a programming interface. Once complete, it will read/write any DTA310 or BPA410 device. the ultimate recovery tool!
BTW, did someone post here that they were successful with the LeadTek firmware on their Packet8 BPA410 device? I would love to know what version of P8 firmware was on the thing before they put the LeadTek firmware on it.. | |
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| vvonky
join:2005-10-25
Colville, WA
| Re: [BPA410] stuck.. no response to anything! For all that this is worth:
It has been posted that holding the reset pin in with the phone off-hook, while plugging in the power cord and waiting for the first LED to start flashing, then releasing the reset pin, will make the unit start beeping.
Entering 1# will lower the beep frequency; entering another digit followed by # will further lower the beep freq; and so on, 2 more times. The unit then resets and can no longer be accessed from the web interface.
I kept playing around, and eventually found a combination (which I don't remember) which reset it all back to "normal", and I can now enter the web interface again.... | |
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join:2003-05-12
Fort Worth, TX
4 edits | Re: [BPA410] stuck.. no response to anything! said by vvonky  :For all that this is worth: I kept playing around, and eventually found a combination (which I don't remember) which reset it all back to "normal", and I can now enter the web interface again.... Could you figure out the combination to make the BPA410 to gain web interface access again....?
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join:2005-11-03
The Dalles, OR
| Re: [BPA410] stuck.. no response to anything! If you goto the leadtek website, they do have phone commands that can be implemented to set a static ip address on the adapter. But as far as I can tell it is ineffective on a bricked bpa due to incorrect firmware being loaded. All i get is the power light and the line1 light lit. | |
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jasonjsimon
join:2003-01-03
| A thought:
If the main reason we can't recover from a firmware update is because of a mismatch between the firmware and downloader version numbers, can't we just modify the code in the firmware (bin) file with the needed downloader version number?
Does that make sense? | |
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| phillipsclan
join:2004-10-17
Springfield, MO | Re: [DTA310] Firmware Recovery Thread where can i get the 13.12 firmware at and how do you modify the bin file? | |
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Test99
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join:2003-04-24
San Jose, CA
 ·DSL EXTREME
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| My DTA has:
Application Code Version: DTA version 1.0 US (8x8 001111)
Downloader Code Version: 1.0 US (8x8 010225)
Upgrades to versions 12.24, 12.26, 12.33, 12.39, 13.12, 13.15 and SIP_1.0_US_LDTK_AR160.rom all failed.
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FWD 50775 | |
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| phillipsclan
join:2004-10-17
Springfield, MO | Re: [DTA310] Firmware Recovery Thread i am in the same boat with Test99.
I guess we have a door stop
they need to remove the Thread about downgrading to 11.11 and then upgrade to 12.22 | |
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| phillipsclan
join:2004-10-17
Springfield, MO
| Re: [DTA310] Firmware Recovery Thread Application Code Version: DTA version 1.0 US (8x8 001111)
Downloader Code Version: 1.0 US (8x8 010225)
no good on the DTA UPGRADER 13.12,13.15 or anything else so far.
i have moved on to ViaTalk and got the Free Linksys Adapter, their service is way better then PACKET 8 | |
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alfonzo21
join:2005-02-03
Auburn, AL
| I have a friend that had an old DTA that he gave me. I want to upgrade it to the AR160 software. I messed up my own DTA. Please give me the steps to ugrading the DTA. I dont want to have another stuck DTA.
Can anyone give me the step by step directions.
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| rizzo2dial
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join:2004-08-05
| Re: [DTA310] Firmware Recovery Thread I simply upgraded my DTA from whatever "current" P8 firmware was on it at that time to Leadtek AR16O. I suspect this was around P8 firmware 12.35, 12.38, or 12.39.
Perhaps downgrade your DTA to 12.35 first, then upgrade to AR16O.
Rizzo | |
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fortissimo
join:2003-10-17
Richmond, BC
| Is there a seperate FlashROM chip inside? If it is, it can be removed (hopefully socketed, but if soldered, it can still be done) to be programmed by a EPROM programmer and then put back there. Best is to have a working unit to clone from, since the flash bin might not cover the whole memory, so it could just be some segments.
I don't have a unit, but 2 of my friends do, but I'm not sure if I can take theirs out to disect though. | |
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Mike_27
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join:2004-05-15
Gardiner, MT
1 edit | Here's the information from the six i have.
Packet8:
Application Code Version: DTA version 1.0 US (8x8 001312)
Downloader Code Version: 1.0 US (8x8 010221)
Application Code Version: SIP version 1.0 US (LDTK AR16O ) checksum e423
Downloader Code Version: 1.0 US (8x8 010113) checksum 6fc7
Application Code Version: SIP version 1.0 US (LDTK AR16O ) checksum e423
Downloader Code Version: 1.0 US (8x8 010221) checksum 9420
Application Code Version: SIP version 1.0 US (LDTK AR16O ) checksum e423
Downloader Code Version: 1.0 US (P8VO 010208) checksum 22af
Application Code Version: SIP version 1.0 US (LDTK AR16O ) checksum e423
Downloader Code Version: 1.0 US (8x8 010221) checksum 9420
Application Code Version: SIP version 1.0 US (LDTK AR16O ) checksum e423
Downloader Code Version: 1.0 US (8x8 010113) checksum 6fc7
Jul 23 20:46:01 asterisk 192.168.X.XX sent an invalid ICMP type 3, code 3 error to a broadcast: 0.17.0.180 on eth0
Jul 23 22:15:11 asterisk 192.168.X.XX sent an invalid ICMP type 3, code 3 error to a broadcast: 0.17.0.180 on eth0
Jul 23 22:45:45 asterisk 192.168.X.XX sent an invalid ICMP type 3, code 3 error to a broadcast: 0.17.0.180 on eth0
Jul 24 06:00:13 asterisk 192.168.X.XX sent an invalid ICMP type 3, code 3 error to a broadcast: 0.17.1.222 on eth0
Jul 24 18:01:04 asterisk 192.168.X.XX sent an invalid ICMP type 3, code 3 error to a broadcast: 0.17.0.180 on eth0
Jul 25 21:38:00 asterisk 192.168.X.XX sent an invalid ICMP type 3, code 3 error to a broadcast: 0.17.0.180 on eth0
maybe these broadcasts are responsible for some of these problems? | |
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| rcilink
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Manchester, NH
| Re: [DTA310] Firmware Recovery Thread That is interesting.. most of your DTA310 units loaded with the LeadTek AR16O firmware have different downloader code.. I guess having the DTA310 stuck with LeadTek AR16O is not as bad as being stuck at P8 11.11.
As for the ICMP, is there an option in SIP Extensions to enable/disable that? | |
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| | Mike_27
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join:2004-05-15
Gardiner, MT
3 edits | Re: [DTA310] Firmware Recovery Thread haha, now that i'm awake i see i replied backwards the first time :\ so i'll fix it 
no i haven't been able to get it turned off in the sip settings of the dta's. | |
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vmc0002
join:2005-07-15
| My DTA 310 has the following firmware:
Application Code Version: DTA version 1.0 US (8x8 001315)
Downloader Code Version: 1.0 US (8x8 010225)
I would like to configure it to work with Asterisk. Could anyone suggest whether that is possible and if so, what is the best approach? I'm asking because the many posts I saw here that with failed upgrade using 010225 downloader. The approachs I am thinking are:
1. Is it possible to update with AR16O directly?
2. Could I update with sip1315unl to unlock the DTA? And will that allow me to configure it to work with asterisk?
Thanks very much for any inputs. | |
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voiplover
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join:2004-05-28
Portsmouth, NH
·callwithus
·Axvoice
| Re: [DTA310] Warning: 11.11 firmware If your downloader code version is 8x8 0102xx or higher;
DO NOT ATTEMPT TO RELOAD FIRMWARE 11.11
I do not know at which version or if it is just affecting those who loaded Leadtec firmware, but it may permanently disable your DTA.
When I wrote the directions for restoring the DTA these firmware versions were not available to me. | |
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| rcilink
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join:2003-12-15
Manchester, NH
| Re: [DTA310] Firmware Recovery Thread To get your DTA310 working with asterisk, you might want to try the following:
Standard Disclaimer: Do this at your own risk! So, don't try this with a DTA310 that is working with a Packet8 subscription! I have actually toasted several DTA310 units, and one BPA410 unit.. I am waiting for a seriously rainy week so I can build the host interface cable and attempt to re-flash the unit while it is in slave-mode. Since I don't have much help from the 8x8 crew, this may be a long-term project.
I do have one DTA310 working with Asterisk [running the AR16O firmware]..
Perhaps these steps may work for you:
1. install firmware 12.35 or 12.39 (I have seen people post that they have used either of these).
2. As soon as it is loaded and you confirm the 'main application' is running, verify the application code and downloader code. The downloader code should NOT be 010225! If it is, try re-flashing the 13.15 packet8 firmware to prevent making your DTA310 into a brick. If it takes, you can start the steps over. Your downloader code should be lower than the 010225 version. If it is, upgrade the firmware to the LeadTek AR16O firmware. (Stay with AR16O, not any of the newer firmwares offered by LeadTek).
3. Once loaded, restart and run 'main application'. You should have AR16O with a downloader code of 010113. If not, you may find that it won't upgrade anymore...  If your goal is to stay with the AR16O for Asterisk use, then dont worry about it. It will configure and work with Asterisk and many other providers (Not Packet8!).
No one has proven it yet, but it appears that the newer firmwares offered by Packet8 may actually break the DTA310 if loaded with the AR16O or the 11.11 firmware. It could be coded to destruct, or random occurance.. I doubt you will get them to tell you..
Good Luck! | |
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voiplover
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Portsmouth, NH |  Re: [DTA310] Firmware Recovery Thread
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join:2004-05-15
Gardiner, MT
| after fooling around some with my dtas this morning i've discovered that this combination of application and downloader will not let this dta boot into downloader mode (Reset -> Reset and execute Downloader Application), making it unable to accept any other firmware.
Application Code Version: SIP version 1.0 US (LDTK AR16O ) checksum e423
Downloader Code Version: 1.0 US (8x8 010221) checksum 9420
so maybe this should go into a list of bad combinations?
Mike_27 | |
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| | | rcilink
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join:2003-12-15
Manchester, NH
| Re: [DTA310] Firmware Recovery Threadsaid by Mike_27 :after fooling around some with my dtas this morning i've discovered that this combination of application and downloader will not let this dta boot into downloader mode (Reset -> Reset and execute Downloader Application), making it unable to accept any other firmware. Application Code Version: SIP version 1.0 US (LDTK AR16O ) checksum e423
Downloader Code Version: 1.0 US (8x8 010221) checksum 9420 so maybe this should go into a list of bad combinations? Mike_27 I don't know if you really want to 'fix' it, since it has the leadtek AR16O working, but if you do, Try the packet8 13.12 sip firmware. It matches that downloader code version.. | |
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join:2004-05-15
Gardiner, MT
1 edit | Re: [DTA310] Firmware Recovery Thread i'm not interested in fixing it back to packet8 firmware, i posted that so others who might wish to go back to packet8 firmware would realize its a dead end. thanks for the suggestion, i'll try that later today and post the results.
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Naftali5
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| have a bunch of dta310
i got one to take leadtek 18d
Application Code Version: SIP AR18D (LDTK US) checksum cc7d
Downloader Code Version: 010208 (P8VO US) checksum 22af
Hardware Type: BVA8051S
any other dowloader won't take it. Do you know of a firmware which includes that downloader?
interesting to note...
packet8 firmwares update the downloader,
leadteks do not, as per leadtek web site and trial.
BTW anyone stuck with almost anything can try this firmware, which even p8 13.15 allows...
from there, almost anything takes...
besides leadtek 18D
I want 18D b/c message waiting light works on it with asterisk.
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| | vmc0002
join:2005-07-15
| Thanks rcilink and voiplover.
I successfully reflashed the firmware with 12.35unl and the DTA is working with asterisk now.
The new versions are:
Application Code Version: DTA version 1.0 US (8x8 001235)
Downloader Code Version: 1.0 US (8x8 010113)
Now the question is whether to flash to AR16O or just stick with 12.35. | |
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rcilink
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join:2003-12-15
Manchester, NH
1 edit | 
BPA410 serial port |
Anyhow, I think this is pinned-out right.. The board has another connector with a place for 5 pins (on the DTA310 board, it was labeled GOB, J5). On the BPA410, it is labeled J7.
The mark is pin 1 (numbered right to left) has the following pinout:
1. bootmode [normally high]
2. Serial Out
3. Serial In
4. Gnd
5. Gnd
The serial port will need to run through a MAX-232 chip to bring the port up to RS232 levels for a PC to see anything from it..
I have the chip and will begin wiring it in later this week. The Goal: clear out the broken firmware and reload new firmware (even if it means I have to hook this serial port up on a working DTA first and save the flash content to disk.. then just put it back into the broken flash..
NOTE: This has not been tested.. My eyes are tired, so verify your traces to be absolutely sure.. Or, if you dont want to do anything, just check back here in a week (I hope to have it done by then) and see what happened to this project.. | |
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RockyBB
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join:2005-01-31
Longmont, CO | GEEKS! | |
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rcilink
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join:2003-12-15
Manchester, NH
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Naked DTA310 |
Now, I will be working on the cabling to get the serial port working as well as the host interface.. stay tuned! | |
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| jasonjsimon
join:2003-01-03 | Re: [DTA310] Firmware Recovery Thread WOW! Awesome work!
We're all looking forward to seeing what you can do. | |
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smp606
join:2002-01-16
PA | Wow, can't wait. I could really use this!! | |
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rcilink
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join:2003-12-15
Manchester, NH
1 edit | Sorry nothing huge to report yet..
I put the order in for the 'max232' chip, and some other parts for my shelf. As soon as that is in, i will post the results of the serial port connection..
Hopefully, it will just work, and things will be that simple. We shall see!
Stay tuned! | |
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jasonjsimon
join:2003-01-03
| I still wonder if a hardware workaround is necessary. Seems to me that the box could be "tricked" by software to force it to load a different firmware file.
Obviously the box is requiring a certain combination of application and downloader codes. Can't the firmware file itself be modified to make the box think it has the proper application and download versions?
I wish I knew more about programming, because maybe I'm missing something or this isn't as simple as it seems. Can you comment on a software crack of some sort rclink?
BTW - I just tried all the firmware versions posted on the last page on both of my stuck boxes and had no luck. | |
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voip4me
join:2004-06-26
Henderson, NV
2 edits | Hello all,
A couple of things to add, I have discovered that with downloader 1.0 US (8x8 010113) checksum 6fc71.0 US (8x8 010113) checksum 6fc7, I had to downgrade from 13.16 to 12.35 BEFORE I could load the AR160 Code. Otherwise it would fail to upgrade.
Secondly, while this loader fails to load the AR18D code (Completes upgrade without an error but reboots back into downloader mode), I am able to load SIP version 1.0 US (LDTK AR17I ) checksum efee. I have attached a screenshot, the AR171 Firmware and the Release notes.
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rcilink
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join:2003-12-15
Manchester, NH
| Here's a glimpse into the RCI labs and the project that is currently being tested. I thought I had all the parts-- just to find out that I dont! Anyhow, here is a PDF showing the process we will perform to add a serial port to the DTA310 device.
If this proves to be successful, I will probably build a connector using 'pogo pins' that can sort of float on a working DTA310 unit, to interact with the serial port without using any solder..
NOTE: this is still in the testing phase, so I make NO guaranty that you will have positive results. Worse case, you can use the DTA310 to keep your car from rolling..
More to come... | |
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captainsniz
join:2005-08-23
North Pole, AK
3 edits | OK, so I did the 1111 firmware update without checking on this site first and now I have this wonderful DTA-310 door-stop in my home office. I believe I have tried ALL the tricks suggested on this forum and others. The DTA is running however will not take updates (usual story).
My question is, being that this DTA is up and running, is there anyway to FTP or Telnet into the device? If anyone has done this and knows the proceedure, please post instructions. Or, is there a firmware flasher that has been used to resolve. This thing is serving up web pages, so there must be something that can be done. 
Application Code Version: DTA version 1.0 US (8x8 001111)
Downloader Code Version: 1.0 US (8x8 010225) | |
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