cob_
1310nm Of Goodness
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Tulsa, OK | reply to OmniUni
Re: Nothing to Hide
I would say spyware, since data about your computer is sent out, and who knows what else. |
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Cudni
La Merma - Vigilado
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Someshire | reply to OmniUni
Nothing to See
Nevermind nothing to hide 
Cudni |
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salzan
Experienced Optimist
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WA State
| reply to OmniUni
Re: Nothing to Hide
said by OmniUni  :I do very little on Windows. Anything I am worried about is on Linux, including email which is on Google's Linux servers.
This pretty much puts you in the minority of people who are trying Alibre Xpress. Most people are running Windows with lots of info they wouldn't want public. So from your standpoint, maybe Alibre is OK.
And if micro$oft's own validation program thinks my copy of Win2k is legit, than how will Alibre tell?
What does MS validation have to do with this??
I reformat every few months, so there is little personal information to find as 90% is faked anyway.
And the other 10% really doesn't matter?
So let me see if I've got this right.
If you really don't care about the info on your computer, or possibly any projects you might design in the software, Alibre Xpress is a good program?
(Are you sure you don't work for Alibre?) |
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Doctor Olds
I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.
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| said by salzan :(Are you sure you don't work for Alibre?) If it smells like a shill, walks like a shill, posts like a shill then it is a shill. 
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Logan 5
Some people go WAY over the top
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The WasteLAN
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1 edit | reply to rocke86
Re: [Free] Free 3d cad to first 100,000
GASP!! Could we have been visited by the mysterious Jessica Formosa in the personage of OmniUni?
She's in charge of Alibre's PR Department as well as a moderator in their forums.....
Things that make you go....hmmmmmmmmmmmm |
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catseyenu
Ack Pfft
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Fix East
| Might be an idea to sic our bad boyz over in »Spam, Scam and Phishbusters
On them.
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Rogue Wolf
Is Kind Of A Big Deal In Yemen
join:2003-08-12
Troy, NY
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| reply to rocke86
Perhaps I might clarify a bit here. Remember, this is all in my own humble opinion, nothing I say should be taken as fact or represents the opinions of my employers, I am not a lawyer, do not take with alcohol, stop pulling your sister's hair, etc. etc. etc.
I don't think that the uproar over all of this stems so much from the CAD program itself. The trouble is that Alibre was FAR less than forthcoming about just what this program really was. As it was originally written, the promise seemed to be a fully-functional, stand-alone CAD program with no strings attached. Only after some one hundred thousand people had submitted their Email addresses for this promotion was the truth revealed: The program was restricted, ad-based and would contact its "home base" via encrypted data packets without giving the user any information as to just WHAT was being sent.
Quite frankly, to me this signals an utter lack of foresight on the part of Alibre. The technically-minded crowd that they must be aiming for are more likely than average to be concerned about things such as computer integrity and data security- not to mention they'd be even more likely to be angry if they felt they were "snookered".
But that's just what I think.
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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·Comcast
| said by Rogue Wolf :Perhaps I might clarify a bit here. Remember, this is all in my own humble opinion, nothing I say should be taken as fact or represents the opinions of my employers, I am not a lawyer, do not take with alcohol, stop pulling your sister's hair, etc. etc. etc. I don't think that the uproar over all of this stems so much from the CAD program itself. The trouble is that Alibre was FAR less than forthcoming about just what this program really was. As it was originally written, the promise seemed to be a fully-functional, stand-alone CAD program with no strings attached. Only after some one hundred thousand people had submitted their Email addresses for this promotion was the truth revealed: The program was restricted, ad-based and would contact its "home base" via encrypted data packets without giving the user any information as to just WHAT was being sent. Quite frankly, to me this signals an utter lack of foresight on the part of Alibre. The technically-minded crowd that they must be aiming for are more likely than average to be concerned about things such as computer integrity and data security- not to mention they'd be even more likely to be angry if they felt they were "snookered". But that's just what I think. Translation - It's crap! |
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Rogue Wolf
Is Kind Of A Big Deal In Yemen
join:2003-08-12
Troy, NY
·RoadRunner Cable
| said by dadkins :Translation - It's crap! Well, if you want to call a spade a spade.... |
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SnowyOne
Premium
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Kailua, HI
·RoadRunner Cable
 ·Clearwire Wireless
| reply to OmniUni
Re: Nothing to Hide
said by OmniUni :Dadkins: what open source CAD is equivalent to Alibre Design express? If you can find one, I will switch in an instant- no matter how many dependencies I must solve! Another translation
dadkins , eat my socks. My program is the best!
said by OmniUni :Oh, about me: yet another translation
I need to put some distance between me, myself & I
said by OmniUni :Male, High School Student, eastern US last translation
This is a role playing game forum, isn't it? |
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lilhurricane
Crunchin' For Cures
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join:2003-01-11
Purple Zone
clubs: | Let's keep it on topic folks... |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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Hercules, CA
·Comcast
| reply to rocke86
Re: [Free] Free 3d cad to first 100,000
To OmniUni,
I cannot find any CAD software that is equivalent to that steaming pile.
All of the other CAD software I have looked at doesn't have ads and doesn't call home constantly. So, yeah... Alibre Design express is in a class all it's own! 
I'll say it again... It's crap! |
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OmniUni
join:2005-08-03
| Linux CAD
Look, I joined this forum because I am a STUDENT who would really like a good 3D cad. I DON'T CARE WHAT OS it's on or WHO made it.
Truth be told I WOULD BE EXTATIC IF I FOUND A GOOD, 3D CAD with NO ads that ran on LINUX.
If you don't think I am a Linux Geek, find me on fedoraforum.org or KDE-Look.org. And if you think I'm not who I say I am, find me on pronetworks!
Despite the fact that everyone keeps trashing Alibre (and since I haven't gotten a response yet, I'm getting annoyed with them too) what we all really want is a software that can do what we were told X-CAD would do.
dadkins: good micro$soft! don't start with me, I'm on your side, remember? What I said, I meant! I would love to dump Alibre, just because I so much prefer the Open Source ideology!
A note on Alibre: I still give them a lot of credit. They had a brilliant marketing campaign. Their software works well. On the other hand, however, it IS adware. It is BARELY what was promised. Most importantly, they have NOT answered my email!
Bottom Line:
Rather than being a "Bash Alibre" post, lets be a "Solve the Problem" post. |
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2kmaro
Think
Premium,ExMod 1 BC
join:2000-07-11
ColossalCave
clubs:
| Well, I pretty well solved the problem as far as I'm concerned:
I downloaded it, as was my right under the agreement.
Nothing says I ever have to use it ... so there it sits, uninstalled. And if I decide, perhaps in a moment of total senility, a drug induced haze, or just a lapse into the world of "screw it, I don't care who knows how much about anything I do who needs personal privacy anyhow" for a microsecond and do decide to install it, then the key code had damned well better still be working.
Personally, for folks who really, really, really need it and are willing to put up with the BS invasion of your world and the limitations placed on it, then by all means have at it.
But I'll get my get-evens one day. Sooner or later some engineer is going to ask me for a good CAD tool and I'm going to stand right up and point proudly at AutoCAD, with AutoCAD Light as his second choice and probably with some comment like "whatever you do, stay the heck away from Alibre, nice software, but the morals of a starving swamp rat - but that's just a personal opinion you understand".
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
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join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
·Comcast
3 edits | reply to OmniUni
Don't start with you? Nothing was directed towards you, unless you have a vested interest in Alibre.
This software is bordering on malware. No CAD software needs to call home constantly, period. If you want *REAL* CAD software, AutoCAD. I bet it won't call home the whole time you have it open either.
Don't get me started on Linux, you want to use it, deal with it. No Linux Distro has anything that will do what I wish it to do. But this is about the Alibre, not Linux/open source.
Use this crap if you wish. It's adware and neutered, nothing like what was stated it would be.
Your choice. Live with it. |
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kruser
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Saint Louis, MO
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·AT&T Southwest
| reply to rocke86
Re: [Free] Free 3d cad to first 100,000
Well,
I decided to try it on a test machine.
It is a machine loaded fresh with Win XP SP2 and nothing else.
First thing was the jave vm.
Downlaoded and installed it and rebooted.
Now when I try to install the Alibre design, I get: The java virtual machine cannot be loaded error message.
Go figure. |
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Logan 5
Some people go WAY over the top
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join:2001-05-25
The WasteLAN
·Pacific Bell - SBC
|  reply to OmniUni
Re: Linux CAD
said by OmniUni :And if you think I'm not who I say I am, find me on pronetworks! Despite the fact that everyone keeps trashing Alibre (and since I haven't gotten a response yet, I'm getting annoyed with them too) what we all really want is a software that can do what we were told X-CAD would do. Most importantly, they have NOT answered my email! I guess you didn't post in Alibre's Forums during their initial Inquisition/Purge of people who did not suck up to them....
You REALLY think you are ever going to get a reply from ANYONE in charge over there?!?
When their CEO lies and breaks his word, what makes you think that anyone else there is better then him??? Greg's employees follow his philosophy very well which does not bode well for the rest of us now does it..... |
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OmniUni
join:2005-08-03
| actually. I DID get a response:
If you purchase the ad-free package, this will also allow you to work offline. Right now that is the only option that we have, but we might plan on further changes as the demand increases.
How can I remove the Ads?
Contact our sales department at 972-671-8492 x284 or you can purchase this option online at »https://www.alibre.com/xpress/store/purchase.aspx.
Thank you,
Alibre Xpress Support
it isn't ideal, but it IS a response.
Dadkins: you've got me stumped! what kinda OS and sofware do you use? What CAD? Well? I as curious as @#$% now!
to everyone: well, let's not slack off now! it seems we're giving them a hard time, so let's keep it up! |
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Doctor Olds
I Need A Remedy For What's Ailing Me.
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join:2001-04-19
1970 442 W30
clubs:
| Re: Linux CAD NOT - stay On Topic, please?
Before I'd spend a single dime with Alibre, I'd buy this for one fifth of the Alibre price of turning off the ADs.
"TurboCAD Deluxe 9.2 + FloorPlan 8"
Our Regular Price $14.95
Now Only $6.99
»www.NothingButSoftware.com/prms/···&ai=1955
I'd even get one of these before Alibre.
TurboCAD Deluxe 9.2 + free Upgrade to v10 included
Original List Price: $99.95
Your Price: $34.95
»www.nothingbutsoftware.com/catal···de=32944
Or
TurboCAD Professional v6.5
Your Price: $39.95
»www.nothingbutsoftware.com/catal···de=26010
Or
DesignCAD Express 15
Original List Price: $79.95
Your Price: $28.95
»www.nothingbutsoftware.com/catal···de=31914
The people behind Alibre are dishonest and shady based on their "bait and switch" + the "smoke and mirrors" campaign for this garbage-ware that was supposed to be equal to software costing thousands.  Adware doesn't compare to any software that you would pay for. They completely misrepresented what they were offering as they knew ahead of time that 100,000 people would have never signed up for ADWARE!!! How stupid is that? I know of zero products *sold* that come with Adware. I would never do business with a company that thinks that is normal for business. AT best, their whole program is Scamware.
Like Enron before them, I see their future being short lived. That's the only good thing.
Regards,
Doctor Olds
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rahlquist
Redeye
join:2001-10-30
Villa Rica, GA
| Call em like you see em Doc!
Personally for me, I find it noteworthy that Alibre has earned themselves quite a reputation for this. As seen here;
»www.google.com/search?hs=10l&hl=···G=Search
And here
»www.google.com/search?hs=oLR&hl=···G=Search
That just warms my heart to know that anyone who does their homework on the company in the future will likely be forewarned.
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