NetDroid2
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Re: fried processor?
Here are some ideas....
If you take out the processor does the computer beep like crazy when you turn it on?
How about if you do the same thing to the RAM?
This is way out there but do you have any bad caps on the motherboard? |
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Kiwi
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said by entertheslot  :It has one short beep when it boots up as it should the it hangs. One short beep, DRAM refresh failure (Problem with memory)
The single short beep has pinned your problem, hope that helps. It's one of your memory sticks.
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entertheslot
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my computer has always had one short beep as does my new computer when i turn it on. in the manual it says it should have one short beep. if i were to take out the cpu and turn it on couldn't that ruin the board. |
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| said by entertheslot :my computer has always had one short beep as does my new computer when i turn it on. in the manual it says it should have one short beep. if i were to take out the cpu and turn it on couldn't that ruin the board. I'm relaying the what the post code means, It's not a CPU issue, rather whatever DDR you have, as posted above, try taking one of the DDR chips out, if the same happens again, then try the other, make sure you place the single chip , as your test in the right bank. On a side note you didn't mention OC, are you overclocking? you might need to change the timings and as a safe point, use default settings.
Any beep code, is a bad sign! 
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on most Mobo's if you take out the Cpu the system does not turn on period. |
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Kiwi
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| said by Subaru :on most Mobo's if you take out the Cpu the system does not turn on period. On all mobo's if the CPU is removed -It won't "turn on".
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just wanted to protect myself is someone said it was not true. |
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Kiwi
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1 edit | Did you make sure to hook up the additional Power Supply 4 prong clip that connects nearest the CPU?
I have heard of this happening when the cpu is not getting enough juice.
Also make sure if you are using an aftermarket Heatsink Fan that it is clear of any and ALL capasitors around the cpu socket. A lot of times the mobo's are only tested against OEM HS/F's and the aftermarkets HS/F makers only test their product on the most popular mobo's out there. On occassion, it has been know to happen, the heatsink touches a cap causing a short or even breaks one lose from its seat to make room.
Just my $0.02.
Good Luck, |
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entertheslot
join:2005-07-03
San Anselmo, CA
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I tried it with only one memory stick and it did the same thing. i also tested the power supply with a power supply tester and it read normal and the heatsink is clear of any capacitors. I can test the memory in another computer or i could test different memory in this computer but i do not want a bad mobo to damage memory of bad memory to damage a good mobo. are either of these entirely safe to do? in my opinion i think it is the motherboard does anyone else agree? thank you for all the help you guys have given me and i would appreciate any more help you are willing to give. |
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Sometimes what helps here is to take a step back.
First, since you're almost at this point anyways, go ahead and take everything off the motherboard. Cards, memory, drive cables, processor, the whole shebang. Why? This is rule-out time. Plus, dinking around inside with the processor and retention clip, you could've either left something loose or half-seated, or broken something.
Up to you, but I'd take the mobo out of the case, find some nice static-free environment (if you saved the bag the mobo came in, great) to set it on, and get a bright light or bright flashlight and examine the mobo carefully for signs of damage, loose component, broken socket, etcetera.
Don't be in a big hurry, and start by reinstalling the basics - processor, memory, video, hard drive. Make sure everything is well seated. I mention this, because I spent 2 days once trying to figure out what I'd done wrong, then realized I had not seated one stick of memory all the way after I had remounted the HSF in a hurry.
Important point - just make sure you didn't inadvertantly create another issue trying to fix the first one. Removing and reseating components has helped me in the past, even when I was CERTAIN everything was inserted/seated correctly.
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said by EvoL4 :Did you make sure to hook up the additional Power Supply 4 prong clip that connects nearest the CPU? That would be ATX 12+ if i'm not mistaken.
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dritus - Now at this point offers a very good and concrete solution, to trouble shooting your issue. If you don't feel entirely comfortable removing everything, out of the case, try taking all components out first, that don't affect function -CD ROMS, slave drives. Leave the video card in, CPU and one DDR stick & the Master drive, then check they are really seated correctly. I would also remove the CPU and clean any Arctic off and reseat and take your time.
DDR won't fry your mobo, you could fry a DDR chip though. After the above, then try to enter & you check the BIOS settings related to your DDR and heat spreaders on DDR are sometimes removed by users anyway. If you got into CMOS, then you are in the BIOS.
Going for broke It could simply be a bad hard drive or a bad cable from the mobo to your hard drive.
~ Still curious though, is any of the keyboards lighting up, when you turn the system on? That needs an answer, not yet given If they did not -Then, that alone will require a new mobo. DDR code beeps mean nothing if the system won't see a keyboard to begin with
If you have tried other compatible DDR for your system -Heck, what brand of DDR are you using? That falls back to the "One short beep, DRAM refresh failure (Problem with memory)" question -irrelevant if the keyboard won't light up though.
Still trying to help.
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entertheslot
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i rebuilt the computer entirely and only plugged in what was necessary. when i turned it on it said press delete to enter bios i di and it actually worked. i pressed f10 to save and exit and it begins to reboot. the screen never came on and the video card fan stopped spinning. I unplugged it for a minute and tried again the screen did not come on. i cleared the cmos and the screen did not come on. i left it alone overnight and tried it in the morning and the exact same thing happened it turned on the first time then when i save and exit the bios it wont work again. the thing i find strange is that the video card stops spinning. |
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entertheslot
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these are my specs again including power supply.
"I have tried multiple keyboards that is what the mobo company said to do then they ran out of ideas. I have a abit ic7 max3 mobo a pentium 4 3ghz processor 1 gb dual channel ddr 3200. x connect 400 watt power supply, a geforce fx 5900 256 mb memory, a sound blaster audigy sound card, a maxtor 80 gb eide hard drive and 2 cd rom drives. It has one short beep when it boots up as it should the it hangs. I kind of think it is the motherboard now because a properly working motherboard displays the problem usually if it can display anything such as memory error or keyboard error or something like that. " |
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It may be the mobo. Though I'll stick with the original comment a single beep code is bad memory, It does not have to fail completely in order to cause problems and a partial failure of a chip will at times allow a boot, but will fail at any point, it could also be a bad mobo battery, particularly if you are having problems getting into the BIOS and may well be the reason your keyboard won't be seen -Rule out the DDR & CMOS battery. The CMOS battery is the cheapest quick fix, pull it out go to a local PC store & pay the $16.00.
A mobo will not necessarily indicate a problem, depending on the issue; though you do have a beep code for bad DDR.
The keyboard issue may relate directly to a dead CMOS battery.
As noted you may have more than one issue & It's highly likely, if you replace the CMOS battery and It still won't boot up, then try another DDR chip that is compatible with mobo, at worst a 128meg cheapo stick to test would be less expensive that dealing with the mobo. First you have to access to the BIOS and then move on from there. The IDE drive may also be a factor, but only after you get successful entry into the BIOS.
Did you ever remove one of the DDR chips or swap them out to test each in one bank? This has been a consistent question?
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entertheslot
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thanks allot for everyone's continued help. i have tried single sticks of memory in different banks. I think my mobo may still be under warranty. At this point i would rather send it back then spend any more money. i may try a new battery though because that is fairly cheap. |
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your old cpu is not fried at all, if you get to see a picture then your mobo is function pefectly well almost
there are several things it could be but lets stick to basics first remove one memory stick if still the same put it back and remove the other if that does not work put both back and try again to get to the bios by pressing delete over and over as you turn it on dont wait just keep tapping it
or F2 or insert depending on what key you need to press to get to bios
I was thinking it could be a hard drive broken but it would wait till it verified dmi data before that happened
A remote chance you will see anything but look at the motherboard closely and see if you can see any burn marks |
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| Or, and this might sound a bit silly, the single beep is a pass of the post test, and the windows install is hosed.
To tell the truth, I am a bit confused about where thinga actually stand at the moment.
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